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ASLplease
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:52 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ASLplease ASLplease: [ sounds a bit racist/anti-american/bigoted( or whatever you prefer to call it) to me. you are disqualifying their values simply because of where they are from. surely, Canada would be at a loss if we refused amercian diabetes association support, or united steel workers of america support, or Americaon medical association support. Duhhh, those aren't values  Talk about arguing for the sake of arguing. There you go throwing around the old racist flag again. Is your arm getting tired yet? And pray tell me how I'm bigoted/racist/anti-American because I have issue with ONE particular American lobby group operating here? I guess my American friends that think the NRA are a bunch of tools are anti-themselves The NRA isn't a massive industry like the steelworkers, and it ain't a charitable organization like the Diabetes Assoc, and it ain't a professional health organization like the AMA. The NRA are a LOBBY group. But then again, I never expected you to see the difference with those blinders you have on.  You have short term memory problems, go back and read things again, then try coming back with something new to add to the coversation.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:30 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ASLplease ASLplease: [ sounds a bit racist/anti-american/bigoted( or whatever you prefer to call it) to me. you are disqualifying their values simply because of where they are from. surely, Canada would be at a loss if we refused amercian diabetes association support, or united steel workers of america support, or Americaon medical association support. Duhhh, those aren't values  Talk about arguing for the sake of arguing. There you go throwing around the old racist flag again. Is your arm getting tired yet? And pray tell me how I'm bigoted/racist/anti-American because I have issue with ONE particular American lobby group operating here? I guess my American friends that think the NRA are a bunch of tools are anti-themselves The NRA isn't a massive industry like the steelworkers, and it ain't a charitable organization like the Diabetes Assoc, and it ain't a professional health organization like the AMA. The NRA are a LOBBY group. But then again, I never expected you to see the difference with those blinders you have on.  You have short term memory problems, go back and read things again, then try coming back with something new to add to the coversation. The only problems that are evident are your lack of comprehension skills and the extreme case of cranial-rectal inversion you are suffering from. If comparing the NRA to the AMA, the Diabetes Asssoc and/he steelworking industry is your idea of adding something new to the conversation, the anti-registration proponents would be better off without your input. 
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ASLplease
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:20 pm
check out these goals, these arent the goals of a canadian lobby group...
• possession permits which are periodically renewed for ALL gun owners • a cost-effective system to register all guns • a total ban on assault weapons and large capacity magazines • controls on the sale of ammunition • tougher restrictions on handguns • strict safe storage requirements • education countering the romance of guns and the myth of arming for self-protection • a ban on replica firearms • measures to reduce the illegal importation of guns • effective implementation of the law • deterrence and prevention in the justice system • ensuring effective implementation of the legislation • research and public education • improving measures to combat smuggling and the illegal gun trade • protecting the legislation from legal challenges and attacks by the gun lobby
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:44 pm
Founded in the wake of the Montreal massacre, the Coalition for Gun Control was formed to reduce gun death, injury and crime. The Coalition supports: Legislation which includes:
• possession permits which are periodically renewed for ALL gun owners • a cost-effective system to register all guns • a total ban on assault weapons and large capacity magazines • controls on the sale of ammunition • tougher restrictions on handguns
In addition it promotes:
• strict safe storage requirements • education countering the romance of guns and the myth of arming for self-protection • a ban on replica firearms • measures to reduce the illegal importation of guns • effective implementation of the law • deterrence and prevention in the justice system
These measures are contained in Bill C-68, proclaimed on December 5, 1995.
Currently the Coalition is focused on:
• ensuring effective implementation of the legislation • research and public education • improving measures to combat smuggling and the illegal gun trade • protecting the legislation from legal challenges and attacks by the gun lobby
Read the VERY first line there bub..sounds like a rather Canadian organization to me.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:13 pm
Oh Bart, let's get back to your Mohawk argument. You ARE aware that most of the guns brought in by the Mohawk come in through the Akwesasne reserve, a reserve that straddles the international border. Makes it pretty easy for Mohawks on the American side to provide weapons for those on the Canadian side. The Mohawks are definitely a big part of the problem, you just picked the group on the wrong side of the border to lay all the blame on.
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ASLplease
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:20 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ...sounds like a rather Canadian organization to me. yes, so does Canadian Institute for Legislative Action .
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ASLplease
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:22 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Oh Bart, let's get back to your Mohawk argument. You ARE aware that most of the guns brought in by the Mohawk come in through the Akwesasne reserve, a reserve that straddles the international border. Makes it pretty easy for Mohawks on the American side to provide weapons for those on the Canadian side. The Mohawks are definitely a big part of the problem, you just picked the group on the wrong side of the border to lay all the blame on. indians are exempt from the gun registry. I guess that must have been the day you slept in.
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:34 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: A nation of unarmed civilians protected by a military that is itself incapable of securing it's own landmass is a pretty tempting target.
And here I thought there were somewhere between 7 million and 11 million firearms in Canada. Besides, how is the registry creating an unarmed population? BartSimpson BartSimpson: What happens if Canada suffers a coup and Canadians are then at the mercy of some proxy government?
If this is even a remote possibility than what should be done is the military should disbanned now. (searching....ahh!) By the way, my father in law, a U.S.A. lifer always said that the greatest danger to democracy in America is a coup by the military. What would Bart do in that case?
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ASLplease
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:44 pm
when the guys in Holland had their firearms taken away, all they had to fight the Nazis were rocks.....so they threw rocks. 
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:50 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Oh Bart, let's get back to your Mohawk argument. You ARE aware that most of the guns brought in by the Mohawk come in through the Akwesasne reserve, a reserve that straddles the international border. Makes it pretty easy for Mohawks on the American side to provide weapons for those on the Canadian side. The Mohawks are definitely a big part of the problem, you just picked the group on the wrong side of the border to lay all the blame on. indians are exempt from the gun registry. I guess that must have been the day you slept in. Nooo really?? Thanks for pointing that Captain Obvious. I suppose next yer gonna tell me the sky is blue.
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:52 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ...sounds like a rather Canadian organization to me. yes, so does Canadian Institute for Legislative Action . Well before you go patting yourself on the back for your ingenuity, the ILA is the political wing of the NRA. Sticking a "C" in front of it ain't fooling anyone. Quite bluntly, the CILA is the political wing of the NRA operating in Canada.
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:54 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ASLplease ASLplease: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Oh Bart, let's get back to your Mohawk argument. You ARE aware that most of the guns brought in by the Mohawk come in through the Akwesasne reserve, a reserve that straddles the international border. Makes it pretty easy for Mohawks on the American side to provide weapons for those on the Canadian side. The Mohawks are definitely a big part of the problem, you just picked the group on the wrong side of the border to lay all the blame on. indians are exempt from the gun registry. I guess that must have been the day you slept in. Nooo really?? Thanks for pointing that Captain Obvious. I suppose next yer gonna tell me the sky is blue. Indians are not exempt from the gun registry. Whoever told you that is lying. They are exempt from many Provincial hunting and fishing licensing however.
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:01 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: wildrosegirl wildrosegirl: I've had enough of US organizations presuming they have some say in our laws.
Get back on your side of the border and mind your business. Sorry. You folks let that genie out of the bottle when your ambassador and government endorsed Al Gore in the 2000 election and when your Liberals joined with British Labour to openly and directly attempt to influence the 2004 US elections. If your government will act to influence our elections, we will act to return the favor. You own previous ambassadors liked to beak off on a regular basis, so don't get lost in "You did it first" complex there. http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/story/20020904/cellucci_defense_020903/
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:03 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Gunnair Gunnair: Shut the oil sands tap off then. Nothing I haven't suggested myself. The sit back and watch the temper tantrum...
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:07 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: And thusly have no reason to be lobbying in Canada. Don't need some foreign lobby group coming up here to tout their "superior American values" to us oh so un-enlightened Canadians  sounds a bit racist/anti-american/bigoted( or whatever you prefer to call it) to me. you are disqualifying their values simply because of where they are from. surely, Canada would be at a loss if we refused amercian diabetes association support, or united steel workers of america support, or Americaon medical association support. That gambit tends to be the cry for help used by those who cannot come up with any kind of intelligent rebuttal.
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