[SprCForr]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

SprCForr SprCForr:

But as POW's they were going to be held until the end. Since Khadr and his ilk have managed to secure status as POW's, they should too.

The end of time?

Answer me this first. Would Khadr be a threat WRT the GWOT if he was released today and the Shining Path amped up?

He'll be held until people much smarter than me determine it's time for him to be released. There are duly authorized groups that are certainly able to address this. I'd presume that he'd fall in with the Talibs for the purposes of negotiations. If he's convicted of killing the medic then it's going to affect his current status. After he serves any sentence passed he'll revert back to regular POW status. If he's still liable to be held as an enemy combatant, then he shall continue to be detained in the appropriate manner.

[SprCForr]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

--the military--are bound in their behaviour by civilians... Once that goes out the window, once the security appartus of the state operates above the law with impunity, then with it goes freedom.

Exactly. I can't put into words how strongly I agree with that.

[gonavy47]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Well, one issue with this is that the "War on Terror" isn't over. Yes, the Germans, Japanese, and Italian POWs weren't held for 7 years, but that's because World War II only lasted for 6 years.

Worse yet, since we're not fighting a country, but an ideological and fundamentalist force made up of a number of organizations (mostly the Taliban and AQ, but others, as well) from various countries (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, among others).

The "War on Terror" will never be over. Terror isn't a thing that can be shot, it's an emotional state that has always existed and always will exist. Fighting an ideology, as opposed to having concrete ends, is just an excuse for perpetual war--which of course is exactly what the neo-cons want.

What the F**K is a "neo-con", and where do they live?

[Freakinoldguy]

$1:

As neo-con godfather Irving Kristol once remarked, a neo-conservative is a "liberal who was mugged by reality".

True to that description, neo-cons generally originated on the left side of the political spectrum and some times from the far left. Many, such as Kristol himself, have Trotskyite roots that are still reflected in their polemical and organisational skills and ideological zeal.

So since it really has nothing to do with us dyed in the wool Conservatives I guess what Zip's referring to when he bitches about the Neo Con's is Liberal Party of Canada and the Democrats.

Who knew.

[PluggyRug]

When clueless about whom to point the finger at, the left wing of he general public often use the term "neo-con" in an attempt to further there arguments.
A hackneyed phrase often used by the same hackneyed individuals to portray a sense of illuminated knowledge. Often their posts need to be surrounded by....

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The individual Khadr allegedly committed an act of terrorism and should appear in a court of the country the act was against. As this is the case in question, situation normal, why the faux outcry?

[Zipperfish]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

What the F**K is a "neo-con", and where do they live?

It's called "Google." Look into it.

[Zipperfish]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

When clueless about whom to point the finger at, the left wing of he general public often use the term "neo-con" in an attempt to further there arguments.
A hackneyed phrase often used by the same hackneyed individuals to portray a sense of illuminated knowledge. Often their posts need to be surrounded by....

[rant]...[/rant]

The individual Khadr allegedly committed an act of terrorism and should appear in a court of the country the act was against. As this is the case in question, situation normal, why the faux outcry?

Actually the neo-conservative movement is quite well defined. However, I wouldn't expect the partisan hacks on here to actually look up the definition of esoe4mthing. That would involve reading. They'd much rather get their daily gruel from the Book of Limbaugh.

They outcry is about about torturing kids, from my corer anyways. You're in favour of torturing kids. I'm against it. Pretty simple really.

[ShepherdsDog]

you kyboad is missig som kys sill.

[commanderkai]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Actually the neo-conservative movement is quite well defined.

Technically, "Neo-Conservatives" were liberals who wanted a more rigid foreign policy, only recently it has evolved to aggressive foreign policy and preemptive war. You're the only one who argues that they want "perpetual war", not even Wikipedia states this, and as much as Wiki isn't exactly the greatest source of the Internet, they do usually add in some of the various theories.

$1:

However, I wouldn't expect the partisan hacks on here to actually look up the definition of esoe4mthing. That would involve reading. They'd much rather get their daily gruel from the Book of Limbaugh.

Eh, just because people don't believe in the "neo-con" boogeyman, doesn't make them partisan hacks.