[ridenrain]

So your saying that "Liberal" provinces have a different criminal law?

[DerbyX]

No, I'm simply pointing out the nonsense that conservative crime approaches will work and that its complete BS that the Liberals pursue a "hug-a-thug" mentality.

Say what you want but the stats show a large decrease in crime in the "Liberal provinces" and an increase in the Conservative ones.

[OnTheIce]

DerbyX DerbyX:

It took a long time for Harper so why should it be so easy for Iggy?

If you didn't notice the differences by now, I'm not sure what else to say at this point.

Again, Iggy didn't just take control of a newly formed left of centre party looking to plant roots.

He may be an excellent author. He may be a wonderful teacher.

However, he stinks at politics and is a poor leader.

[DerbyX]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

DerbyX DerbyX:

It took a long time for Harper so why should it be so easy for Iggy?

If you didn't notice the differences by now, I'm not sure what else to say at this point.

Again, Iggy didn't just take control of a newly formed left of centre party looking to plant roots.

He may be an excellent author. He may be a wonderful teacher.

However, he stinks at politics and is a poor leader.

Oh please. Harper should have received a lot of support from the renewed conservative movement. New leaders need time to establish themselves.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

No, I'm simply pointing out the nonsense that conservative crime approaches will work and that its complete BS that the Liberals pursue a "hug-a-thug" mentality.

Say what you want but the stats show a large decrease in crime in the "Liberal provinces" and an increase in the Conservative ones.

So "Liberal" provinces have different ways of dealing with crime than "Conservative" provinces?

Really?

Please tell me more...

[gonavy47]

Here you go with the books again. History did not begin in 1985. Look at the stats from 1965 to 1985. Boy for somebody who likes to call others ignorant, you sure are ignorant. Typical liberal, nose in books. Are you a student or have you actually worked for a living? I doubt that you have. Oh wait, maybe you are a university professor, they know everything! I mean, look at Iggy!

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

DerbyX DerbyX:

No, I'm simply pointing out the nonsense that conservative crime approaches will work and that its complete BS that the Liberals pursue a "hug-a-thug" mentality.

Say what you want but the stats show a large decrease in crime in the "Liberal provinces" and an increase in the Conservative ones.

So "Liberal" provinces have different ways of dealing with crime than "Conservative" provinces?

Really?

Please tell me more...

Yet Canada does have a "Liberal" manner of dealing with crime and we are lower then them.

[DerbyX]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Here you go with the books again. History did not begin in 1985. Look at the stats from 1965 to 1985. Boy for somebody who likes to call others ignorant, you sure are ignorant. Typical liberal, nose in books. Are you a student or have you actually worked for a living? I doubt that you have. Oh wait, maybe you are a university professor, they know everything! I mean, look at Iggy!

Read the article sunshine. It clearly talks about the crime rate in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

[ridenrain]

Come on Derby.. You put both feet in your mouth and I want to see you mumble out a correction.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Come on Derby.. You put both feet in your mouth and I want to see you mumble out a correction.

You are the guys stumbling around blaming crime rates on the Liberals. I'm just pointing out the failures of that theory by using something you cons are allergic too, evidence.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Come on Derby.. You put both feet in your mouth and I want to see you mumble out a correction.

You are the guys stumbling around blaming crime rates on the Liberals. I'm just pointing out the failures of that theory by using something you cons are allergic too, evidence.

Yeah.. Evidence...

DerbyX DerbyX:

Say what you want but the stats show a large decrease in crime in the "Liberal provinces" and an increase in the Conservative ones.

Where's the evidence or proof of these different criminal law methods in "Liberal" or Conservative" provinces?
I thought all that was national..

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Come on Derby.. You put both feet in your mouth and I want to see you mumble out a correction.

You are the guys stumbling around blaming crime rates on the Liberals. I'm just pointing out the failures of that theory by using something you cons are allergic too, evidence.

Yeah.. Evidence...

DerbyX DerbyX:

Say what you want but the stats show a large decrease in crime in the "Liberal provinces" and an increase in the Conservative ones.

Where's the evidence or proof of these different criminal law methods in "Liberal" or Conservative" provinces?
I thought all that was national..

I don't need to. I'm mearly using that as a dig at you guys. You are the people complaining that crime in Canada is linked to Liberal judges and Liberal justice policies and you simply claim that a Conservative approach will lower that crime yet you never post any evidence to support it.

You simply have no evidence to support anything you say on crime.

[ridenrain]

As I pointed out before.. All the shooters or shot in Vancouvers drug gang war were either on bail or on probation from previous crimes that involved guns. If the 5 year manditory for gun crime was in effect, they would have been in jail and they wouldn't have been out to shoot others.

That is a fact.

You can waffle and guess that they might have been replaced by others but the odds are aginst you there.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

As I pointed out before.. All the shooters or shot in Vancouvers drug gang war were either on bail or on probation from previous crimes that involved guns. If the 5 year manditory for gun crime was in effect, they would have been in jail and they wouldn't have been out to shoot others.

That is a fact.

You can waffle and guess that they might have been replaced by others but the odds are aginst you there.

What you keep failing to understand is that gangs are in the recruitment business. Any member still in jail gets replaced and the violence still continues. Need I bring up the prison population in the US and how it hasn't managed to lower crime?

[ridenrain]

The one thing we know for a fact is that if these hoods were in jail, they woudn't have been out shooting each other.

You can't prove that they would simply be replaced, can you?
By that logic, these gangs would be huge when we know their only a very small % of the population.