[Brenda]

I have never seen it or heard it being said at the school my kids attend, nor do they sing the Anthem when they have some kind of play they do where the parents can come watch.

[martin14]

stratos stratos:

curious, in the USA we have the pleage of allegence does Canada have a simular thing?

No, we dont, maybe its why many people can get quite passionate about the anthem,
it's our major show of patriotism.

[Zipperfish]

stratos stratos:

curious, in the USA we have the pleage of allegence does Canada have a simular thing?

I rem. being in elementry scholl saying it almost every day. Then when I was married and at a PTA meeting my oldest step daughter was asked to lead us in the pleage of allgence, I was briming with pride as she shyly did it with out flaw.

We chug a beer and yell out "Fuck we rule!"

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

I wonder if they go to other nations and start passing judgment on their customs?

I am sure Martin has something to say about that.

and now I understand why this thread went from what should have been
2 pages of rah rah to 8 pages of something else.


I dunno B, our situations may look similar on the surface, but
there are some big differences between us on this topic.

For starters, my parents changed over as soon as it became possible
to become Canadian citizens, no hesitation.

I do understand your desire to keep your Dutch papers in case you need
to go back for an extended period, but a boat trip to England is no biggie.

I also understand people may view that in a negative way.


Second, I have never had plans to stay forever in Europe;
neither Slovakia, nor Spain nor Italy. I agree I have been gone a long time,
some days too long, but one day I will come home, and my home is Canada.

In some ways, I am much more of a 'mercenary' than you.

one night in the pub:

"Martin, what are you doing here ?"
" I came here to teach you buggers how to speak English, take your money,
drink your beer and fuck your women "

We all had a good laugh over that one

Having said that, I dont post on Slovak/Spanish/Italian forums,
discussing things like anthems and troop deployments.

It's not my place.


I grew up with the anthem every day, the Lord's prayer as well,
and I firmly believe these are good things for the people of Canada.
When the Millet nonsense started, I wrote the Minister in New Brunswick about
this, he actually wrote back


The schools in BC don't play the anthem everyday, and I think this is wrong.

It would be really great to see that policy in BC changed, and it would be
even better to have a recent immigrant leading the charge for it.

[ShepherdsDog]

Even if I wanted to take up citizenship in Taiwan, which I don't, I wouldn't be allowed to because I'm not ethnically Chinese. I can become a permenant resident, but not a citizen. Even those children who have a non Taiwanese parent, face problems trying to become citizens. I came here to make money, not to emigrate. That's why I have my house in Canada still, my eldest son is living and going to school there and I continue to pay Canadian taxes.

[PENATRATOR]

Brenda Brenda:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Nice try. We now all know what you think about Canada. You are just here for your own benefit and being Canadian is totally secondary.

Don’t tell us about our guys fighting and dying in Afghanistan anymore. Comment on the Dutch instead.

And what IS my benefit exactly?

I would, but you guys ignore international troops

Oh I don't know, I would think one benefit would be getting to live in safety in a peacful country you are not even a citizen in might be one

[PENATRATOR]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

stratos stratos:

curious, in the USA we have the pleage of allegence does Canada have a simular thing?

I rem. being in elementry scholl saying it almost every day. Then when I was married and at a PTA meeting my oldest step daughter was asked to lead us in the pleage of allgence, I was briming with pride as she shyly did it with out flaw.

We chug a beer and yell out "Fuck we rule!"

You are either in the Maritimes or Alberta right? hahahaha

[MAC1767]

the amount of national pride i see americans have toward their flag, their country, and their anthem, i wish that more Canadians had that national pride, a good place to start would be making sure our children know the national anthem, and learn to have pride in their country, something i think i not tought in out schools today. the schools dont seem to teach enough about canada, its people or its history.

[Brenda]

Ah, i see. So because I am not a citizen, I cannot have an opinion on if I think singing the anthem every day is too much or not (I wouldn't complain either if we did tho) AND I cant say I hope this particular soldiers life will not be completely ruined because of the severe wounded Taliban he shot dead, which could very well have been out of compassion.

Just for all of your information, when I say "please do not waste lifes in Afghanistan anymore" I am not saying "don't waste Canadian lifes anymore". I am talking about ALL troups, from ALL countries.

I will remember this, that my freedom of speech is not tolerated because I am in the country for only 2 years.

(and yes, my kids and I know the lyrics to the Anthem)

[PENATRATOR]

Brenda Brenda:

I will remember this, that my freedom of speech is not tolerated because I am in the country for only 2 years.

(and yes, my kids and I know the lyrics to the Anthem)

Awesome (on both points)

[MAC1767]

brenda,

you are not a canadian citizen?

[Brenda]

Funny thing tho, that when canadian citizens do the same in another country, it is "OF COURSE you dont give up your citizenship or take on another" Gotta love the hypocrisy

[Brenda]

MAC1767 MAC1767:

brenda,

you are not a canadian citizen?

Nope. Not even allowed yet. I moved from Holland to Canada almost 2 years ago. I am a Permanent Resident.

Changed your view of me now?

[MAC1767]

i know very little about you to have a view.

i want the national anthem every day, in our schools, i want my kids to learn it like i did.
if some people dont like that, well we live in Canada where it is ok to speak out.

i take it you are trying to become a "citizen", why is it taking so long, if you dont mind me asking.

[EyeBrock]

The best thing I ever did as an immigrant is take the 15 Canadian history courses I have done over the past 6 years.
I'm lucky in that my place of work encourages continuing education and they give me a chunk for tuition each year.

History is very interesting and I find Canadian history fascinating, especially as so much happened in the area where I live (southern Ontario).

My kids are Canadian and I haven’t renewed my UK passport since it expired 7 years ago.
My Canadian passport is bang up to date.

I have sworn allegiance to Canada and this is where I’ll stay and this is where I'll be buried. I’d also be in the first line-up to enlist if need be, if the CF would still want me!