[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

lily lily:

THe question is...

What difference does it make?

It's called order.

I guess your plethora of military experience is speaking here...

[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

llama66 llama66:

whats the problem with gays serving? If they can complete basic, why should their sexual preference matter, hwacker, this may shock you but, there are gay cops, gay politicians, gay ministers, the list goes on. personally I don't give a shit if your gay or what.

That's all fine and dandy but i'm sure the guys in the military don't care what you think.

Yet more of your plethora of military experience...

[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

Great post for the internet, too bad in real life it won't happen.

It already has happened where it counts - Canada.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

romanP romanP:

Apparently straight people in the US military do this:

I see nothing there that you won't see at any fraternity hazing this fall.

As offensive as it looks, humiliation is a very effective technique for breaking down Muslims and it is far more successful than physical torture with these guys.

Humiliation is a form of torture in this context, and I'm sure it will "work" with anyone regardless of their religion.

The Thinker thinks what it wants to think, and the Prover proves what it wants to prove. Your Thinker and Prover are very obvious, Bart.

[PENATRATOR]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic the author of the article's last name is COCKS? lol

[roger-roger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

#1 You pretty much came out and said this is just a personal theory and is not based in facts.

Oh, so you have links to the documentation for every conference you attend?

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

#2 has some measure of legitamcy, but that only works when the guy is in the closet, if he is allowed to be open about his sexuality, then there is nothing to cover up.

It's more than just that. The number of queers who freely violate security is disproportionate to their population.

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

#3 Again that is only because they are not accepted, the gay soldiers I know are moral boosters.

Good for you.

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

#4 So? If biggots dont want to join the military, the military will be better for it.

People who have strongly set values make the best and most reliable soldiers. Or would you rather have comrades who constantly make situational judgments about their actions instead of doing what they're trained and ordered to do?

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

If you want to see how homosexuals effect the military you should probably look at the military that has accepted them for 10 years or more.

Indeed. Do that.

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

So accepting fellow human beings as equals is not progress?

So a pedophile or a jihadi is your equal? Or do you not accept fellow human beings as your equal?

#1 No but I try to back up everything I say with evidence, and if I cant prove something I say I will retract it.

#2 Again where is the proof?

#3 I know, you would probably be more comfortable burning a lower case t on their lawn wouldn’t ya If you didnt you might catch their gay.

#4

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

comrades who constantly make situational judgments about their actions instead of doing what they're trained and ordered to do?

Sounds like you’re describing the soldiers I know who are bigots.

Just admit you’re a bigot and get it over with BartSimpson, you have no leg to stand on. You can stomp and scream as much as you like but gay men and women are gaining an equal place in society. You can either accept it, or rant and rave like an asshole and prove that some Americans have a long way to go before they can be considered apart of enlightened society.

I do see pedophiles and jihadist as fellow human beings, equal to the same rights as I, until they break the law.

[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

lily lily:

hwacker hwacker:

NO i didn't. it's a fact. Do you have trouble reading ?

I didn't see any quotes from guys saying this was a great thing that B-HO did, Why is that lily ?

Because the article is about "some" troops who feel their manly image is being threatened.

Not most.

Some.

Well lily you go down to boot camp next summer and see how they treat GAYs in the military. You can be our roving reporter because you know it all.

Ultimately I'm proud to serve with gays and lesbians that have chosen to serve their country in what is one of the most challanging and difficult professions there is.

Unlike you, Hwacker, they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it.

You're say in the matter, since you opted out of the challange, counts as less than zero.

[hwacker]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Ultimately I'm proud to serve with gays and lesbians that have chosen to serve their country in what is one of the most challanging and difficult professions there is.

Unlike you, Hwacker, they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it.

You're say in the matter, since you opted out of the challange, counts as less than zero.

Funny i listened i didn't hear any of this

"they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it"

STFU already, there is no calling.

[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Ultimately I'm proud to serve with gays and lesbians that have chosen to serve their country in what is one of the most challanging and difficult professions there is.

Unlike you, Hwacker, they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it.

You're say in the matter, since you opted out of the challange, counts as less than zero.

Funny i listened i didn't hear any of this

"they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it"

STFU already, there is no calling.

That's why you're content to sit back while gays and lesbians defend you?

[ShepherdsDog]

When the chips are down and you're underfire, you always want to make sure someone is watching your ass.

[hwacker]

Gunnair Gunnair:

hwacker hwacker:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Ultimately I'm proud to serve with gays and lesbians that have chosen to serve their country in what is one of the most challanging and difficult professions there is.

Unlike you, Hwacker, they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it.

You're say in the matter, since you opted out of the challange, counts as less than zero.

Funny i listened i didn't hear any of this

"they've opted to heed their country's call and serve it"

STFU already, there is no calling.

That's why you're content to sit back while gays and lesbians defend you?

Who is defending me?

Unless Canada is at war and the CBC missed that.

[OPP]

That's as news worthy as it gets here, I guess. Mean while, Obama said to shut down gitmo, said they'd pay attention to international law and not torture people any longer, the palestinians had a bit of a genocide problem and a fluorescent war crime came swooshing by like a shooting star and.. what else?

[OPP]

lily lily:

OPP OPP:

That's as news worthy as it gets here, I guess. Mean while, Obama said to shut down gitmo, said they'd pay attention to international law and not torture people any longer, the palestinians had a bit of a genocide problem and a fluorescent war crime came swooshing by like a shooting star and.. what else?

Has Sweden allowed straights in the military yet?

They've allowed Americans into the millitary, so why wouldn't they?

[ShepherdsDog]

But unlike Sverige, the American military has won some wars since the 17th century....and helped liberate oppressed peoples.

[OPP]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

But unlike Sverige, the American military has won some wars since the 17th century....and helped liberate oppressed peoples.

But they're not gay, so I guess they're not all bad.

Correction 21'st century