[Robair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Yes, you should agree with everything I say.......you are getting sleepy.....eyebrock is your master.....the wheat board will survive.......

If Harper had won a majority, the CWB would already be gone.

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Robair Robair:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Yes, you should agree with everything I say.......you are getting sleepy.....eyebrock is your master.....the wheat board will survive.......

If Harper had won a majority, the CWB would already be gone.

Much to the delight of most western farmers.

[Robair]

ziggy ziggy:

Much to the delight of most western farmers.

Right, that's why the VAST MAJORITY of farmer elected board members are pro single desk.

STFU, spread your misinformation somewhere else.

[RUEZ]

bootlegga bootlegga:

RUEZ RUEZ:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

None of this would ever have happened if Harper hadn't brought forth a deliberately provocative fiscal update that focused more on crushing the opposition than anything else.

BS or are you just ignoring what we know the NDP was planning. As Riden has just posted. Sorry that doesn't fly.

It's funny that you are surprised that the opposition would have plans to upset the apple cart so to speak. Harper worked tirelessly for two years after Martin won to get the PM job, even going as far as talking about a possible coalition government with those Bloc separatists all you Conservatives claim to despise.

Yet when the Liberals do the exact same thing, it's beyond the pale, treason, a reason for separation, etc. It's a pity most of you can't look at your own party objectively.

Harper brought this crisis on with his attempt to crush the opposition plain and simple.

I'm not against the parties trying to bring down the government. My disgust is with this coalition from hell. If the Liberals and NDP feel the Conservatives aren't doing the job bring down the government and let us the taxpayer vote on it. It's not like we didn't just give Harper a victory just over a month ago but what the fuck I'm ready to do it again.

[EyeBrock]

Hey Rob, I adjusted my stance, scroll back a page.

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Robair Robair:

ziggy ziggy:

Much to the delight of most western farmers.

Right, that's why the VAST MAJORITY of farmer elected board members are pro single desk.

STFU, spread your misinformation somewhere else.

Sorry but unlike you I dont have an agenda where the selling of wheat is concerned.
Either do the Alberta farmers who went and paid fine's when they sold their own wheat without govt. interference.


No kyoto
No gun registry
No CWB are bumper stickers you see all over Alberta.

[Robair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Scape Scape:

With EB you have to 'give it up'. No point, he's made up his mind and wants to fuck with yours.

Nah, I just like a bit 'o fun now and then!

Hey, I don't mean to be flippant on a problem that affects a certain part of Canada.
I lived in NFLD for 3 years and I have great sympathy with the exploitation of the fisheries, Churchill Falls etc. I'm sure this is a similar issue.

I just think that whatever Harper did on the CWB is over shadowed by this conspiratorial nonsense from Dion and Layton.

It doesn't mean I have no sympathy will a fellow Canadian getting shafted by a Tory policy.

Fair enough. But I think the short lived government that will come of this coalition is a small price to pay to have Harper replaced with a Conservative leader that is not driven 100% by his free market ideology.

Even the guy the Conservatives appointed to run the board during it's planned demise is changing his tune. He went in, saw how things were run and said "hold the boat, I think the CWB actually adds real value for Canadian farmers."

Harper just keeps using every tool he can to hurt the board. Even purposefully damagine it's credit rating. How does that help western farmers??? That is still where their grain is marketed.

I have conservative values and a very healthy dislike for Harper.

[EyeBrock]

Hey Rob, I'm less than impressed with him too but Jim Prentice 'aint floating my boat.

Apologies for any undue slagging on the CWB thing.

[Robair]

ziggy ziggy:

No CWB are bumper stickers you see all over Alberta.

On ranchers' vehicles. See my signature.

The board is elected by grain producers. The results of these elections speak for themselves.

[Robair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Hey Rob, I'm less than impressed with him too but Jim Prentice 'aint floating my boat.

Apologies for any undue slagging on the CWB thing.

[ryan29]

DerbyX DerbyX:

RUEZ RUEZ:

BS or are you just ignoring what we know the NDP was planning. As Riden has just posted. Sorry that doesn't fly.

Except the Liberals weren't and its complete hypocracy for the cons to cry about the NDP planning on bringing down the CPC when since the moment Martin won in 04 they spent every waking moment trying to bring them dow.

Harper tried to bring in a bill designed to put what he hoped would be such a financial starain on the opposition that he would effectively be able to govern as a majority. He gambled on the Liberals abstaining again and he was wrong.

You guys spent so long bitching about the Liberals abstaining and that abstaining cost them big in the election. They weren't about to start backing down again.

Harper gambled and lost big time and deserves his fate.

Harper had a chance to govern with a minority supported by a party of his choosing but he decided he cared only for grabbing more power.

The fault lies entirely with him.

well everyone though the liberals would abstain or at least sit things pass until they have a new leader . the timing of this thing seems odd and to me i do not think it will be in there best interest in the long run . they are quicking angering thousands of people against them by pushing this coaliiton after just losing the election .

but i do agree that harper should worked with at least one of the opposiiton parties enough that they wouldn't want to bring down the governemnt . that was something i was thinking about last night .

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ryan29 ryan29:

but i do agree that harper should worked with at least one of the opposiiton parties enough that they wouldn't want to bring down the governemnt . that was something i was thinking about last night .

What could he put on the table that they could believe what he says so they would be interested in talks? Harper has poisoned any possibility of that and this was the camel straw. It's reap what you sow time for Harper but for the CPC that's another issue. If Harper's regime falls (and it must die at this point) the CPC should clean the slate and remove Harper so that talks have a chance.

[ridenrain]

I'm unclear how a fresh elected party that hasn't even submitted a budget is so evil that it has to be Koo-couped by a party who was rejected by everyone, including his own party.

This ideological bent of "anyone but Harper" is bordering on the fanatic.

[kenmore]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I'm unclear how a fresh elected party that hasn't even submitted a budget is so evil that it has to be Koo-couped by a party who was rejected by everyone, including his own party.

This ideological bent of "anyone but Harper" is bordering on the fanatic.

Guess you dont listen to the news or read the papers.. we dont have time to wait for a late jan..early feb budget or plan.. give me your address and I will send you a toonie to buy a paper..

[Canadaka]

Is a possible solution to all this for Harper to step down and the conservatives have an interm leader that is actually willing to work with the other parties and drop the partisan games.