[putz]

Tman1 Tman1:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Not when you say "develop something", you did not say improve something, enhance something or increase something.

How old are you? Look up the word DEVELOP.

$1:

Add that to the "save more lives then kill" comment and your sentence implies that too much is being done on killing people and not enough on protecting people.

You like to throw around the word 'implied' around but you aren't using it correctly but rather you are 'assuming' what I say into what you think, which is incorrect. I'm not impling anything which I have told you several times. I want the Taliban just as dead but I want our troops alive more.

$1:

I have proved (as well as I can without going into mission specifics) just the opposite is going on, more money, training and man power has gone into strengthening a system to counter IEDs then to kill people with a newly acquired artillery shell.

Well thats great then Mr secretive commando of the JTF2, show me with articles or something and you haven't proven anything but that's beside the point. This article is about the CF aquiring an 85,000 per shell weapon to kill or did you contradict yourself again?

http://www.dres.dnd.ca/ResearchTech/Products/MilEng_Products/RD2005_12_EOD/index_e.html

http://www.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/business/cfp/counter_ied_e.asp

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=2ad3a7aa-3263-45aa-9b41-5172b83b371f

A couple of links showing DEVELOPMENTS in counter IED. Next time use this thing called GOOGLE http://www.google.ca/ it'll help you find information, and drop all the verbal nauze, your trying to make yourself sound smarter then you really are. Somethings cannot be talked about in detail. We signed waivers and can go to JAIL if we mention specifics about certain things. ESPECIALLY counter IED. Maybe TMAN1 you need to pay attention Eisensapper is an Engineer. HIS JOB INCLUDES COUNTER IED.


DEVELOP- To advance; to further; to prefect; to make; to increase;
to promote the growth of.

A the english language the wonders that a single word can have multiple meanings. Thus, a sentence can be construed in different ways.

[commanderkai]

Tman1 Tman1:

All I said was that something that detects roadside bombs to protect ground troops would be better than an 85,000 dollar shell but wow, you sure showed me with your own eptitude by telling me to research something that you probably don't know anything about anyways. Tell me how many of those vehicles Canada has in Afganistan? Why a Lav III can be easily ripped to shreds and why a majority of Canadian soldiers die by roadside bombs.

Just curious, how do you really detect a roadside bomb? I mean, bombs can be hidden in anything from pipes, to some sort of burning husk of a car, to a person. They aren't like mines in which you need to step on them to activate them, they're commonly set off by remote (Correct me if I'm wrong) so the only way to really stop an IED attack is by basically clearing the streets of anything that has volume, or killing everybody ahead of the convoy route. One is difficult, the other would just be evil.

I mean, I guess we can use dogs, but that costs a crapload of money too. At first, not really knowing what an IED was (which basically means any homemade bomb) I was going to suggest those old minesweeping units they placed on Shermans. Crocodiles? Basically it was a spinning cylinder of chains that detonated mines before vehicles got close enough, including the Sherman.

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I really cant go in to how we find them. You have to take my word on it though that once a engineer team is to clear a route we will find anything in that road.

CME (Canadian Military Engineers) still have a flail, its not an attachment to a tank though. It is a different vehicle called an Ardvark. The Leopard II has a mine roller attachment that we used a few times on my roto.

We have contracted out to dog handeling agencies, but they are only really good for vehicle and house searches. When a dog finds an IED they tend to try and did it up, which will almost always set it off. This happened to one dog handler on my roto, the dog was turned into pink mist and the handler nearly lost half his face. They were able to save his eyes but he is now blind.

[roger-roger]

Tman1 Tman1:

Well thats great then Mr secretive commando of the JTF2, show me with articles or something and you haven't proven anything but that's beside the point. This article is about the CF aquiring an 85,000 per shell weapon to kill or did you contradict yourself again?

Im suprised your not in the JTF yourself, hell even CSOR! If you can dodge bullets and mortars like you dodge issues like that you would be a shoe in. Oh wait! Your not in the militay silly me you cant even apply for Joint Task Force 2 or the Canadian Special Operations Regiment.

I cant recall any point where I contradicted myself, if I have please show me, so I can clairfy what I had ment to say.

You still are way outside your field of knowledge, you might as well be one of those foilers who say the WTC came down with explosives. You both seem to think you have a firm grasp on what you are talking about, when you dont even try to find facts. You just decide that the powers that be arent doing things the way they should be.

[Tman1]

putz putz:

A couple of links showing DEVELOPMENTS in counter IED. Next time use this thing called GOOGLE http://www.google.ca/ it'll help you find information, and drop all the verbal nauze, your trying to make yourself sound smarter then you really are.

Thanks for the links. I'm kind of wondering why you are doing boy wonders work for him? Oh wait, drop the what? Verbal NAUZE???? and trying to make myself smarter than I really am? Well, not tough considering the crowd here. In any case, I wasn't trying to be smarter than anybody here but look at the meatheads on here blustering about nothing. Great job.

$1:

Somethings cannot be talked about in detail. We signed waivers and can go to JAIL if we mention specifics about certain things. ESPECIALLY counter IED. Maybe TMAN1 you need to pay attention Eisensapper is an Engineer. HIS JOB INCLUDES COUNTER IED.

Well, you just provided me with links about certain "developments" I, and most likely any other common citizen, isn't aware of......so what is it exactly that is hush hush? You criticize me for not using google then go on to say that certain things are hush hush? Jesus H and josephine. I don't know what Eisensappers job was, I don't care what Eisensappers job is and why it relates to my sentence like it is some personal insult. Oh, get back to me when you address the "WHERE DID I MENTION HIS JOB AND CRITICIZING IT AT ALL" part. How the fuck am I supposed to know his job? Then again, this is something he hasn't addressed at all and accuses me of dodging...I'll wait.

$1:

DEVELOP- To advance; to further; to prefect; to make; to increase;
to promote the growth of.

A the english language the wonders that a single word can have multiple meanings. Thus, a sentence can be construed in different ways.

Well jeez, that kind of sound like the very thing I was promoting in my very first sentence on here before being attacked........Yeah, its called 'sentence structure' not the 'word' itself dummy. Sorry, I hardly need the likes of you to tell me the difference of meanings in the english language but I suppose that's where reading comprehension comes in, something lacking very much on this thread it seems. Oh wait, what is a NAUZE???? Is that english or dummyspeak?

Dumb putz.

[Tman1]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Im suprised your not in the JTF yourself, hell even CSOR! If you can dodge bullets and mortars like you dodge issues like that you would be a shoe in. Oh wait! Your not in the militay silly me you cant even apply for Joint Task Force 2 or the Canadian Special Operations Regiment.

Oh, dodge issues. Is that what this is now. This coming from you who can't quote me criticizing your job, telling you I know more about YOUR job than you and even remotely mentioning the damn thing in my simple sentence. In fact, I asked you to quote my EXACT words several times and nothing. Yeah, dodge bullets? Mr commando Eisendummy to the rescue. You sure showed me as your pal PENETRATOR seemed to LOL at it. Oh silly me, did I actually think your opinion was more than mine because you are supposedly in the military???? Yeah, silly me

$1:

I cant recall any point where I contradicted myself, if I have please show me, so I can clairfy what I had ment to say.

No point it seems. If you can't read what I write at a grade 4 level, you are out of luck and I'm not going to waste more of my time. Not my job to educate just like its not your job to tell me to google on two mine detector disposal units.

$1:

You still are way outside your field of knowledge, you might as well be one of those foilers who say the WTC came down with explosives. You both seem to think you have a firm grasp on what you are talking about, when you dont even try to find facts. You just decide that the powers that be arent doing things the way they should be.

Umm "we both",who are you talking about?????????? Weirdo... In any case, I never claimed to be any expert in anything but yet again it's you putting words in my mouth, making assumptions and ascribing positions I don't have and never did. Fuck you're dumb and I hope others on here see that instead of idiot military jocks who give you 9 rep points for being dumb. Great job as usual.

[Tman1]

P.S - I'm a Harper supporter.

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Tman1 Tman1:

Umm "we both",who are you talking about??????????

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

you might as well be one of those foilers who say the WTC came down with explosives. You both seem to think you have a firm grasp on what you are talking about

I was making a comparison between you and wack job conspiracy theorists. I was pointing out that you and conspiracy theorists both think you know what you’re talking about.

Sorry to burst yet another bubble of yours Tman1 my opinion on military matters does count more than yours since I am in the military, more specifically I do find, disable and destroy roadside bombs. The same as your opinion would count for more on crack pot theories without any knowledge of the subject you are talking about. You’re not in the position have any opinion on what the military should and shouldn’t do, because you know absolutely nothing on the subject. At least Streaker shows he has, although its very limited, knowledge on military mistakes.
I can understand why you insult me, but to come on here and insult people who support my position? Most people would see that as a clue. The people who gave me rep points have been on here much longer then you or I. To call them "Idiot Military Jocks" just for supporting my position is very childish and really demonstrates how mature you are.

(What does that T stand for anyway? if I typed Tman into Google I have an idea what would pop up, Im just curious what your T is for.)

[PENATRATOR]

Geez, TMan nice tantrum, you call the guy a names and question his age ect ect. (3 straight unanswered posts?? lol) Yet you talk as if you took the high road?
Just who is the adult here.

[roger-roger]

Tman1 Tman1:

P.S - I'm a Harper supporter.

This relates to the thread how?

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Tman1 Tman1:

P.S - I'm a Harper supporter.

This relates to the thread how?

[Tman1]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

I was making a comparison between you and wack job conspiracy theorists. I was pointing out that you and conspiracy theorists both think you know what you’re talking about.

Well for one, I wouldn't use the word "both" but oh well that's you. Second, I don't have a conspiracy theory and have no idea how such a concept would be implemented in this sort of discussion....but again it's you telling me what I "THINK" I know about for some reason. You're putting words in my mouth and telling me what I am thinking. What next? Eisendummies Nazi world?

$1:

Sorry to burst yet another bubble of yours Tman1 my opinion on military matters does count more than yours since I am in the military, more specifically I do find, disable and destroy roadside bombs.

Burst another of my bubbles? You never did and never will. I could care less of your opinion or your occupation. Apparently your the one shoving your occupation down my throat which was never in question in the first place. Does your opinion (why would you have an opinion, you're more knowledgable right?) matter more than mine? Nope, it doesn't but keep thinking so.

$1:

You’re not in the position have any opinion on what the military should and shouldn’t do, because you know absolutely nothing on the subject. At least Streaker shows he has, although its very limited, knowledge on military mistakes.

Sorry, I am of the position to have whatever opinion I have concerning the military should and SHOULDN'T do whether you want it to or not, sorry, that's freedom of speech and great people like you protecting it. Half of the forces of Canada in Afganistan were killed by IED's, how much limited knowledge does that take? Jesus. You may know more about something but far from perfect on it. Tough.

$1:

I can understand why you insult me, but to come on here and insult people who support my position? Most people would see that as a clue. The people who gave me rep points have been on here much longer then you or I. To call them "Idiot Military Jocks" just for supporting my position is very childish and really demonstrates how mature you are.

Don't tell me what demonstrates 'maturity' asshole. Look back at your little tantrum a few pages back, and hell ,you even pm'd me the same message like a little shit. Talking to a child has its limits, even I do and you take the cake. Indeed I insulted you at the last spiel and if it made you cry, I apologize but hey, you initiated it, I ended it. Oh what, aren't you a tough soldier? Idiot.

$1:

(What does that T stand for anyway? if I typed Tman into Google I have an idea what would pop up, Im just curious what your T is for.)

It doesn't stand for anything creep and what are you doing googling it anyways? Fucking weirdo.

[Tman1]

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Geez, TMan nice tantrum, you call the guy a names and question his age ect ect. (3 straight unanswered posts?? lol) Yet you talk as if you took the high road?
Just who is the adult here.

I guess you missed his little tantrum which was uncalled for which started this whole debacle but I guess you neglected to read from page one isntead of shooting your (gun) off without looking and shooting friendlies. Adult? Not you that's for sure but I like how you came out of nowhere to support your good buddy without knowing all the facts. Case in point. Ching!!! LOL.

[Tman1]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Tman1 Tman1:

P.S - I'm a Harper supporter.

This relates to the thread how?

Beyond you that's for sure, why bother quote it?????

[Streaker]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Afghanistan is what? 5-6 million? Iraq has about 30 million people. You need more forces keep order in areas with a higher population.

I think you're a little off on Afghanistan's population there, ck.