Thanos Thanos:
Interesting point on Sochi. The trendy left among the pop bands made a big deal out of boycotting North Carolina over the transgendered washroom issue when the state said no way, that male rooms were for males and female rooms were for females, period. Do you think any of them would ever boycott Russia and refuse to do concerts there, even though there's a massive and very violent anti-gay sentiment that both the Russian government and the Orthodox church stoke up on purpose? How many of them are willing to still play in South Africa, in order to make some green out of that post-Mandela vibe, even though the current South African PM (and the whole damn ANC party) says that gays are less than dogs and deserve everything inflicted on them? Will any of them do the same thing if they're playing in any Muslim cities, even though the same sentiment in those places is even worse than in Russia?
Doubtful. North Carolina, just like the random Christian baker here and there, is an easy target for litigation. Russia though? Nope. Hands off on South Africa too. And can't criticize the Muslims either, apparently, no matter how many of their views are stuck in the dark ages.
BRAH BRAH:
It comes down to protecting those lucrative contracts while it's easier to boycott North Carolina helping the Christians are evil agenda. Let's not forget Hollywood's long list of celebrities who for the right price will perform for a country that has shameful record against LGBTQ's and when they're caught it's always the Chewbacca defense of "I didn't know".
I'd love to see the hordes of Western artists descending upon Riyadh and Mosul and Aleppo in the status quo. I doubt there are many who play for anyone other than the Western troops in those countries.
That being said, on Russia, yes,
artists did stop going to Russia. Indeed, the general block of the arts has been ongoing. The "trendy left" doesn't really exist in Russia, or really in South Africa either anyway. When Elton John decided to go to Russia, it was in contrast to the hundreds of other artists who had chosen to no longer perform in Russia, and he had to spend time explaining why he was going to a nation with such horrible GLBT laws. He went to
challenge the government, he said while pointing out many of his fellow artists had decided not to go to Russia, and
was a thorn in Putin's side for years.
martin14 martin14:
Khar Khar:
Why is it that these people never get included in the "people who live among us" category? None of them are marching off to support extremism, and they all embrace the values of rights and freedoms of the country. Why are they not on the list? Why do you assume Fifeboy doesn't mean those ones, who better represent the majority that live in Canada or the USA?
Aside from the fact that your statements are complete bullshit, because there are lots of Western jihadis running around;
and your selective stupidity trying to limit things to North America, while 1.5 million Turks are about to get visa free access to the EU, and I am sure some of them read that paper I quoted;
the simple fact is the 'peaceful majority' is another liberal lie, and is anyway irrelevant.
Khar Khar:
Xerxes, Beaverfever, Fifeboy, and others on this site have all condemned fundamentalist violence, and have all condemned violence against the GLBT community repeatedly.
None of them have done so in this thread.
Bullshit? So those people aren't mayors, MPs or MLAs in Canada or Britain? It's "selective stupidity" when Fifeboy talks about people we live with in a thread about North America, and my response is about North America? Your response is that these people are "about" to get EU-free access, meaning they don't have it now, so aren't living with us, is more acceptable? It also ignores that the mass majority of people in Turkey also haven't recently bombed anything either, and that a newspaper is probably not representative of the people (unless you believe the Toronto Star is now the halcyon of your personal beliefs?).
There are a handful of jihadis running around. They've done a lot of damage, and yes, people have condemned it. Canada's entire Muslim population didn't storm Parliament. The US' entire Muslim population wasn't at Pulse. It could be because the rest were busy being peaceful. Somehow, I think those statistics are going to be with me, unless you can demonstrate how millions of people across the Americas were all engaging in terrorism, or how tens of millions across Europe were doing the same, without trying to paint them all in the names of the same handful?
For a "liberal lie," it's an awfully easy one to believe. When it's in response to a condemnation of the entirety of the Muslim population in the West, I'm also pretty damn sure it's relevant. I can buy there is an issue with Islamic fundamentalism worldwide. I can also do that without condemning a broad cross-section of Muslims who are not fundamentalists, especially those who have chosen to live in the West.
You also haven't condemned the violence against the gay community in this particular thread either. Mind, my post said they had, even if not particularly in this thread, and it's safe to say they would all condemn it pretty much unilaterally in this thread as well.
But hey, keep up with the personal attacks. Always appreciate being called stupid.
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