[N_Fiddledog]

Is there something in the water here or something?

Somebody says:

"Sorry, but when it comes to Islam I'm not interested in trying to parse out who of them isn't dangerous. It'd be like me asking you to find out who the moderates are at the Westboro Church.

Or say who the moderate Klansmen are. Surely there's got to be some, right? Shouldn't they have the same rights as Muslims since they seem to harbor similar animosities? "

Somebody replies:

"False analogy. Notice how you conveniently distinguish Klansmen as being totally separate group from other White people."

To which assorted goombahs stand and applaud.

"Hear hear. Bravo. So clever."

Except it's really not. It actually misses the point like it's in a different orbit.

He did not "conveniently distinguish Klansmen as being totally separate group from other White people."

Why would he? He wasn't talking about white people. He was talking about Klansmen as a group and Muslims as a group.

He was saying there are no moderates in either group. This business of making everything about being white or not white thing exists only in your bigoted minds.

[Brenda]

1.7 billion Muslims in the world. Yup, they must be all bad.

[N_Fiddledog]

Now whether he's right or wrong remains to be seen, but cheering race baiting is, no offence, but kind of dumb.

Here I'll show you what the point actually was pictorially. Maybe then you can understand it.

The point may very well be worth arguing, but what it actually was, was more like this:







He was saying he's starting to come to the conclusion it's becoming so difficult for him to see the difference between moderate and radical in the grouping called Moslems it's getting to be almost like trying to find the same difference in a group that is recognized as soully radical like, for example, Klansmen.

[Thanos]

Brenda Brenda:

1.7 billion Muslims in the world. Yup, they must be all bad.

Too many of them are to make it worth the risk. That's just the way it is. The sons of the last generation we let in wanted to blow up a commuter train in Toronto and decapitate the PM. The is a threat that encompasses generations and it's just not worth it.

[N_Fiddledog]

Here's the kind of thing that can take you down that road to not being able to distinguish who the enemy is.

[Thanos]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Thanos Thanos:

Oddly enough it's really not such a bad idea. The bad part that discredits it is that it's coming from an overwhelming asshole like Trump. But a nation has the absolute right to decide who can and can't enter it. And, just in case anyone had forgotten, this is what happened the last time some Muslims were 'just visiting'.



Trump is the problem. The policy though, should it ever come to pass, is entirely legitimate.

Sorry, but the counter to this that first comes to mind would involve Godwining the topic.

Knock yourself out if you want to. No love for fascism but when life is at it's most basic it's better to be the predator than the pray. And good doesn't defeat evil, not like our belief in fairy tales and stories for children say it does. A different kind of bad is the only thing that can really stop true evil. Two atomic clouds over Japan in the summer of 1945 is proof enough of that. Pretending this world is any kind of cuddly will only get someone killed.

[N_Fiddledog]

In any case I sometimes think that people hiding behind Godwin's law like Tweetie Bird behind Granma's skirts are more just afraid of accuracy.

[BeaverFever]

And how on earth would you or Bart or any of your right wing ilk know anything about moderate Muslims? Seriously I would like to know.

And as for your last post re nazis, note that we didn't ban or outlaw German immigration except for very brief periods while the wars we're on. Immigrants came right up to the time wars were declared and they resumed right after the wars ended

[BeaverFever]

$1:

He did not "conveniently distinguish Klansmen as being totally separate group from other White people."

Why would he? He wasn't talking about white people. He was talking about Klansmen as a group and Muslims as a group.

Boy you really to give this a re-think. I can't explain this any more simply so give your special education tutor a call, will ya?

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Boy you really to give this a re-think. I can't explain this any more simply so give your special education tutor a call, will ya?

Of course, you can't explain it. You're wrong.

I explained it in detail. It was easy. It's like that when you're right.

Something you'll never know, so here's a pat on the head and a "there, there."

[BeaverFever]

Umm no I explained it and you just shit out of your mouth as usual.

I told you to think about it. Don't come back until you do. No immediate comebacks please, just go away and think.

[N_Fiddledog]

Ok I thought about. I was right. You were wrong. (as usual ) Making something about race when it has nothing to do with it is always wrong. Now you think about that. You need to.

And here's another of the many things we on the right know about Moderate Muslims that you of the Regressive left don't.

Catch up.

[BeaverFever]

Sorry you're too dumb and clueless for me to respond to you anymore. I have to put you on ignore for a while. Chatter away, I won't be reading.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Sorry you're too dumb and clueless for me to respond to you anymore. I have to put you on ignore for a while. Chatter away, I won't be reading.

Ahh...did I Micro-agress you? Did you need a trigger warning?

Retreat to your safe space then. You'll still be stupid when you peek back out though.

For me it's just one more Regressive I don't have to educate is all.

[Delwin]

The Truth is, Trump is the best thing that could have possibly happened to the democratic party, he is an insurance policy that all but guarantees that Republicans will not see the inside of the white house for another 4 years. I'm sure it's fun to watch and everything for the bigots and racists in the party but only because they are too idiotic to see that the closer he aligns to their views, the further he aligns with the views of the majority. I almost wonder if he is not being paid but some rich democrat somewhere.

Although his words are extremely divisive and harmful, I look at this as the last hurrah for the angry white racists in the US. and I take pleasure in knowing that not matter how much they think they are accomplishing with this Trump BS, he is actually doing more damage to their cause than anyone else could. He is also exposing a hateful ideology that we all knew was present in the US without knowing the exact extent further damaging the GOP brand.

I am just going to sit back and enjoy the show. I am going to take great pleasure watching the GOP implode and even more from the knowledge that they are too stupid to know that it is even happening.