[N_Fiddledog]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Well, that's mighty white of you guys. Oh wait, that's not a very liberal thing to say is it?

Thanks for the morning laugh.

From me too. I like Liberals. If only they were still allowed to exist in their raw unprogified state.

[Public_Domain]

[Tricks]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

It's the "progs" like me that should be freaking out.

You..... a 'prog'??

A little left but definitely not a "prog".

What in the actual fuck is a prog.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andytroll andytroll:

The reason I get so into refuting the anti-Muslim hysteria on this forum is because I worry about the country adopting the same stance. As more informed people than I have pointed out, make all Muslims the enemy, and they will become just that. They won't inform on the radicals in their midst, will instead start to support them. It's only natural, you and I would act the same if it happened to us. This is playing with fire.

It's funny. When our govt copies disastrous US right wing policy, you can't help but call them on their stupidity. But when we wanna copy disastrous European left-wing policies, well hell, it's the greatest idea since sliced bread since people more informed than you have said so. That's not a very high bar.

Unless you're going to suggest that leftist Europe has been treating its Muslim immigrant population like terrorists for the last 20-30 years or so and that's been the cause of all the bullshit going on with them over there recently.

And if not, then what the hell makes you think things will ultimately be any different here?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Tricks Tricks:

What in the actual fuck is a prog.

It's short for a "progressive".
The NDP, or at least a good number of their members would be a good example of "progs". Basically, everybody has some form of "perceived" super-special rights, unless you're a straight, White male. If you are, then you need to just shut up because your opinion doesn't count for shit since you're responsible for all the evil ever committed by every White person in history. Unless of course you're a straight, White male who also happens to be a prog. Then your opinion counts because it fits in with the whole stupid ideology.



Or something like that

[DrCaleb]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Tricks Tricks:

What in the actual fuck is a prog.

It's short for a "progressive".

. . .

Or something like that

I just think it's morphed into anything that the poster doesn't like.

Example:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Next thing you know I'd be one of those types gloating about catching somebody using "who's" when they meant "whose", and people would start calling me a prog. So I don't do it.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Always nice to have the Progressive contigent drop in to explain why they're not interested in what's clearly mentioned in the title. Keep in touch.

Thanos a progressive If anything he falls well into the realm of small c conservative or a common sense reactionary. Moving things back to a time when greed wasn`t good, we had a more ordered and civil society that respected the law and the middle class actually meant something ......at least I hope so.

You know I'd like to let that one go, because when I explain what I mean by "Progressive" it's going to turn into a big, flaming, hair pulling contest. (Edit`: In fact it looks like it already has, so no problem.) Also it's off topic. But you're a reasonable guy, so I'm going to divert to explain this once just to you so we're speaking the same language from here on, then try to ignore the flames from others that are sure to follow.

OK first of all I don't like the word Progressive. If you look up the definition of that the first thing you will notice is there aren't any actual "progressives". They don't exist. If they do, point me to them.

What there are, are what I, and others call Progs, but if you refer to them by that more correct term they flip upside down with buggy eyes, start pulling out their hair and screaming. Well...more or less, kind of like that.

So what's a Prog? A prog is a smug, sarcastic, mocker. (Yes, I can give as good as I get with that. I can do Allinsky tactics too. No apologies). A prog is narcissistic and as such no amount of facts can convince him he's wrong. No amount of time spent knocked on his ass is going to convince him he actually has been. He's the black knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

But the prog does not actually believe in anything other than what might give him a quick fix of belief in personal power.

A prog is Oikophobic. He cannot not be any kind of conservative. He is not small c anything.

In general he is against the values, traditions, and standards that got him here, and allows him the freedom to be the tiny impotent little thing he actually is. But this can be confused by the fact he is in favor of any temporary fix that gives him the mistaken idea he is in control, or winning. The latter there can override the former, and that may have given you the mistaken idea a prog can be some kind of Conservative. But no, somebody who puts people like Allan Grayson, or Andrew Sullivan up on a pedestal for admiration is not a conservative.

It's easy to make that kind of mistake with progs though - that they are conservatives or liberals. At times they will encourage such impressions, but they are neither, although they do seem to orient more left than right in general. However that's only because it's usually easier for them there for personal reasons. You'll find them all over the political spectrum. I always get a kick out of the progs that call themselves Libertarians.

Here's the most interesting thing about Progs though. They only have power until you recognize what they really are.

Watch what happens now though, and you'll see why it's generally easier to just call them progressives.

[Tricks]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Tricks Tricks:

What in the actual fuck is a prog.

It's short for a "progressive".
The NDP, or at least a good number of their members would be a good example of "progs". Basically, everybody has some form of "perceived" super-special rights, unless you're a straight, White male. If you are, then you need to just shut up because your opinion doesn't count for shit since you're responsible for all the evil ever committed by every White person in history. Unless of course you're a straight, White male who also happens to be a prog. Then your opinion counts because it fits in with the whole stupid ideology.



Or something like that

That's a social justice warrior, I assume same thing then.

[Public_Domain]

[Freakinoldguy]

Tricks Tricks:

What in the actual fuck is a prog.

It's a person one letter short of being a "prong"

Hope that helps

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

At this point I consider myself a Social Justice Warlord,

Is that what it says on that Dungeons and Dragons card of yours?

[Freakinoldguy]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I just think it's morphed into anything that the poster doesn't like.

Much like the term reformacon or bircher which can and is used to describe "all" conservatives who disagree with the "progs".

Personally, I'd rather call an asshole an asshole based on their personal idiotic point of view or opinion rather than playing any political labeling game.

[2Cdo]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Personally, I'd rather call an asshole an asshole based on their personal idiotic point of view or opinion rather than playing any political labeling game.

Ok, you're an asshole.

[Public_Domain]

[DrCaleb]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Personally, I'd rather call an asshole an asshole based on their personal idiotic point of view or opinion rather than playing any political labeling game.

Ok, you're an asshole.

I agree though, I hate being pigenholed in with the other assholes.

[Freakinoldguy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Personally, I'd rather call an asshole an asshole based on their personal idiotic point of view or opinion rather than playing any political labeling game.

Ok, you're an asshole.