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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:53 pm
 


My dog sits on the couch with me. I'm unsure how comfy it would be with Dobbin-the-retired-racehorse watching the Military Channel next to me.

Come on guys. Work horses vs domestic pets? Really? I can't believe we have 8 pages on this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:09 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
My dog sits on the couch with me. I'm unsure how comfy it would be with Dobbin-the-retired-racehorse watching the Military Channel next to me.

Come on guys. Work horses vs domestic pets? Really? I can't believe we have 8 pages on this.


We have eight pages because the work horse was family...they loved it... and they cried when it died...

But that won't stop them from exposing their 'family' to continued dangers and possibility of death and maiming.

Cry because of the cost of replacement, not because it was 'family' that you loved. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:37 pm
 


I cry daily at the tragedy of humanity I see unfold before me. Sometimes its quite funny too...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:06 pm
 


Law enjoyment as opposed to law enforcement.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:10 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I cry daily at the tragedy of humanity I see unfold before me. Sometimes its quite funny too...


Okay then.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:12 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:

With respect, I think your may be confused as to the term "organic" and how it related to the animals.

"Organic" refers to how they are raised (with or without drugs) and fed. It has nothing to do with the killing of the animal or cruelty in general.

There have been stories about organic farms being just as cruel as "standard" slaughterhouses. In the end, the animals all end up at the slaughterhouse, organic and non-organic.


Oh, I'm under no illusions here, but it's better than nothing. But restaurants that serve organic food, usually source from small, often local suppliers, where I figure there is less chance for cruelty. It's not close to a perfect system, but its all I got. For example, alot of the pharmaceuticals that exist in animals are because factory farms pack so many animals into such a tight space, the animals live knee-deep in their own feces and diseases pass quickly from one animal to another. Local farm means hogs don't have their flesh freezing to the side of the transport truck during a cross-country haul in the dead of winter. Hopefully it means they're not being slaughtered by the hundreds on a conveyor belt by a bunch of ex-cons and migrant workers who keep their boredom at bay by testing the cattle prod on the animal's gentialia. I'm also aware that south of the border, the US organic market is increasingly dominated by large California-based suppliers that are sometimes very industrial operations themselves.


Yes, I'm aware that there is a natural cost to quality over quantity, but the markets still gouge consumers for "premium" products like free-range, organic, etc. Why can't I buy organic free range eggs in a normal cheap recycled paper carton like the other eggs, why do they have to come in a fancy hard plastic carton with double lids that can survive a nuclear attack and a fancy high-gloss colour label? That's probably half the price mark-up right there. But IMO, the cruel produce is priced artificially low, the same way that the price of a cheap product that is made with slave labour is artificially low: it does not reflect the cost of doing it morally.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:14 pm
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Law enjoyment as opposed to law enforcement.


Some crazy stuff happens Shep. It's like a 24/7 Jackass movie at times.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:16 pm
 


Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:

And where do retired Chuckwagon horses go, a horse condo in Florida? Chuckwagon racing is a fringe sport anyway, even within the rodeo community so I doubt they're prolonging the lives of that many racehorses.


Chuckwagon horses race into their late teens,the oldest I've heard was 22, if they haven't made it in Thoroughbred racing by the time their a 3 year old their headed for some wine sauce.

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
And what do you think "bred into them" means anyway? It means they are bred for a temperment that responds to breaking and training.


Really :!: :!: :!: ROTFL

When you know more about horses you come back and we'll finish this.. :lol: :lol:


Wow I must have missed it when geneticists discovered the elusive chuckwagon gene :roll: Pulling a cart with a little man on it is not in-born behaviour dummy, it's learned behavior.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:40 pm
 


$1:
restaurants that serve organic food


As opposed to ones that serve styrofoam, or mcDonalds?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:47 pm
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
$1:
restaurants that serve organic food


As opposed to ones that serve styrofoam, or mcDonalds?

I think he means pesticide/herbicide free veggies, as well as drug free beef.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:50 pm
 


I know...and from what I've read about the 'organic' food industry, it's a crock of shit that is taking advantage of the simple minded.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:04 pm
 


During the Iditarod, an average of 3 dogs die every year. I don't remember ever hearing the owners crying their losses.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:25 pm
 


raydan raydan:
During the Iditarod, an average of 3 dogs die every year. I don't remember ever hearing the owners crying their losses.


It's like a getting a flat during a NASCAR race. Replace and carry on.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:25 pm
 


raydan raydan:
During the Iditarod, an average of 3 dogs die every year. I don't remember ever hearing the owners crying their losses.

How many of them personally trained the dogs versus had employees do it for them?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:34 pm
 


raydan raydan:
During the Iditarod, an average of 3 dogs die every year. I don't remember ever hearing the owners crying their losses.

Depends on the individual owner. Some love their dogs, while others see them merely as a tool to be used.


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