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Title: Thorncliffe Park school offers 'sanitized version' of sex ed for Grade 1 students
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2016-05-23 13:23:29
Canadian

[N_Fiddledog]

Or...

If any are brave enough to check out a version of the story not authorized by the "Ministry of Truth" through the state-run media they can try this one.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNaCijhaQQ

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Or...

If any are brave enough to check out a version of the story not authorized by the "Ministry of Truth" through the state-run media they can try this one.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNaCijhaQQ

Or you can just opt out of it like they do at my kids school in the suburbs.

[N_Fiddledog]

Then why would it be necessary to give Thorncliffe a blanket fix?

Perhaps because of this:

$1:

What do you do if 200 kids in a school want to opt-out of sex ed on religious grounds?

Where do you put them all while their classmates learn about sexual health? Who would supervise them? If there’s no space and no staff, do you ask dissenting parents to take their kids home? If so, do you schedule these classes at the end of the day to make pickup easier?

Schools get creative to deal with a wave of sex-ed opt-outs

But then we have to answer Menzies question - "why does the protesting Muslim school get the fix, but the protesting Catholic school doesn't?"

[Freakinoldguy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Then why would it be necessary to give Thorncliffe a blanket fix?

Perhaps because of this:

$1:

What do you do if 200 kids in a school want to opt-out of sex ed on religious grounds?

Where do you put them all while their classmates learn about sexual health? Who would supervise them? If there’s no space and no staff, do you ask dissenting parents to take their kids home? If so, do you schedule these classes at the end of the day to make pickup easier?

Schools get creative to deal with a wave of sex-ed opt-outs

But then we have to answer Menzies question - "why does the protesting Muslim school get the fix, but the protesting Catholic school doesn't?"

Because, one is the new normal to be accommodated at all costs while the other is a just another roadblock to the new an improved progressive socialist mandate.

[N_Fiddledog]

BTW, did they change this?

$1:

MISSISSAUGA, Ontario, September 3, 2015 -- Despite an explicit government promise ensuring that parents can opt their kids out of the controversial sex-ed program beginning in schools next week, the province’s second largest school board has declared that parents will not be able to opt their kids out of portions of the course dealing with homosexuality and gender identity.

In a letter submitted to all mainstream media outlets yesterday, Peel Director of Education Tony Pontes was unambiguous that a request from parents to have their children opt-out would not be accommodated.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontar ... ay-lessons

$1:

There is no province-wide process to follow if parents want to opt out. Each school board deals with such matters differently, usually under equity policies for religious or conscientious accommodation.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... curriculum

$1:

Parents can remove their kids from sex-ed classes for religious reasons, but any requests for students to opt-out of learning about gay families or diverse gender identities won’t be tolerated, says the director of Ontario’s second largest school board — one that expects to be hard hit by protests over the new health curriculum.

https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/edu ... ssues.html

If not, what exactly are you allowed to opt out from?

[BeaverFever]

Is there anyone who didn't recently immigrate from Pakistan at any of these protests? 99% of the furor seems to be from the Muslim community so it's odd to see the Muslim haters forming such an unholy alliance with their avowed enemies. Maybe the most important sex ed lesson from all of this is that politics makes strange bedfellows.

The Ontario curriculum is not substantially different from what was already in place in most provinces, most of what the political right believes to be true is just patently false misinformation.

A desperate ploy from the once proud political party whose only products now are grandiose lies, demagoguery, and landslide election losses, and total inability to see how these things are connected.

[herbie]

A Grade One was over visiting my daughter and stayed for dinner. She blurted out that her Mom & Dad hadn't told her where babies come from yet. So my ex told her the stork brought them and left them under a cabbage leaf.
My daughter, 6, practically spat her food across the table.
More like a DORK, Mom! We live on a farm. Whattaya think those horses are doing? What do you think we are - children?
She later told me her Mom had told her much earlier it was the wedding cake. There was some stored in the freezer and when she asked why we kept that old cake, the ex told her you took a piece and ate it to make a baby.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Is there anyone who didn't recently immigrate from Pakistan at any of these protests? 99% of the furor seems to be from the Muslim community so it's odd to see the Muslim haters forming such an unholy alliance with their avowed enemies. Maybe the most important sex ed lesson from all of this is that politics makes strange bedfellows.

And as usual Mr Knows-Everything doesn't actually know anything.

The expert on videos he hasn't watched missed the point again, of course. That being; the objection is to a two-tiered benefit favoring Muslims over others.

What we non-Mohammedans are demanding here is equal treatment for all groups.

If the Muslims get it, everybody should.

Think about it this way. Suppose Kathy forces a Catholic priest to marry a gay couple. But just up the street she's letting the Imam pass on the same practice. That's a special kind of wrong and it has nothing to do with whether or not the Catholic priest and Muslim Imam are allies. That's not the point.

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And as usual Mr Knows-Everything doesn't actually know anything.

The expert on videos he hasn't watched missed the point again, of course. That being; the objection is to a two-tiered benefit favoring Muslims over others.

What we non-Mohammedans are demanding here is equal treatment for all groups.

If the Muslims get it, everybody should.

Think about it this way. Suppose Kathy forces a Catholic priest to marry a gay couple. But just up the street she's letting the Imam pass on the same practice. That's a special kind of wrong and it has nothing to do with whether or not the Catholic priest and Muslim Imam are allies. That's not the point.

Before you jump on others, what do you specifically know about what's taking place in schools?

Do you have kids in the school system in Ontario or Toronto?

[N_Fiddledog]

I know what I referenced in the video. I know what the subject there was. This appears to be more than what you and Beave know in reply.

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

I know what I referenced in the video. I know what the subject there was. This appears to be more than what you and Beave know in reply.

So you have no experience with kids in the system, you'll just take the word of a 3rd rate 'news' channel on Youtube as gospel?

Accommodations are made at schools all over the Province for a variety of reasons.

Christian's have had exceptions made for them for ages. I had a friend in school that got exempted from a lot of things in school, including standing in-class for the anthem because he was a Jehovah's Witness.

Imagine the outrage of a Muslim kid asking to sit in the hallway during the anthem?

My kids, all white and non-religious, were given the option to opt-out of their sex ed classes this year.

Don't believe all of the trash you watch on the Internet.

[N_Fiddledog]

None of which says it is not a fact that Thorncliffe got an allowance the catholic school did not. That was the claim, and no, you're anecdotal evidence of whatever it is you want to talk about does not disprove that claim.

[N_Fiddledog]

Just out of curiosity though, because I am curious, did your kids accept the option? If not, do they have friends that did? It was in Ontario, right?

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

None of which says it is not a fact that Thorncliffe got an allowance the catholic school did not. That was the claim, and no, you're anecdotal evidence of whatever it is you want to talk about does not disprove that claim.

How do you know that no Catholic school hasn't been given an exemption? Of course they did!

This just shows how ill-prepared you are for debate. Just looking for something to be outraged about.

In fact, the curriculum is being taught differently to them as well. That's fact. (Even a reference from your type of rag)
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/06/11/se ... s-trustees

So, it appears that Christians and Muslim's are being accomodated for this particular program.

Happy now?