[Newsbot]

Title: The sports car that runs on SALTWATER: Vehicle goes from 0 to 60mph in 2.8 seconds
Category: Environmental
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2014-09-02 01:16:14

[N_Fiddledog]

Something is wrong with this article.

It's not big enough. The whole world should be startled. The story should dominate headlines.

If it really is saying what I think it's saying, then they've solved the energy crisis. The Saudis need to start learning how to live in tents again. Putin goes back to being a B player on the world stage. Every aspect of life in the modern world is changed in ways we can't even imagine.

Are they really saying they have water powered energy that can come from a tap?

[BartSimpson]

It's an old story...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105788/

[N_Fiddledog]

Well, yeah. I've been hearing the claim for years. But it's always been treated more as kind of tinfoil based exaggeration. They talk about it. I've even watched videos of cars seeming to run on water. Conspiracy stories like the guy who was supposedly murdered for his secrets of water base energy, or Big Oil preventing the secret from getting out by buying up patents and such were all over the internet. The videos are still all over YouTube and have been for years. But you always had to ask where's the commercial application then?

I understand there's some basic science behind the proposed tech, but when you start talking about viable production of energy from salt water, aren't you saying you can power a city with ocean water and here's commercial proof?

That - it would seem to me - is different.

[N_Fiddledog]

What I'm saying is there has to be something about this story they're not telling us.

If it is as simple as what's implied in the article then this is the biggest story in the world for this century. It's bigger than computers or the internet.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

What I'm saying is there has to be something about this story they're not telling us.

If it is as simple as what's implied in the article then this is the biggest story in the world for this century. It's bigger than computers or the internet.

Really? Hmmmm. You'd think that something this big would be the lead story everywhere!

Guess what? We hear about these things from time to time, and they do have limits.

$1:

Water passes through membrane in tanks creating an electric charge

Ooo! Freshwater/Saltwater osmosis! If I had a nickel for every time I heard that was the answer to the energy density storage problem!

First drawback, (other than being in the Daily Mail) is the byproducts are some nasty water that you can't discharge into any other water body, or it severely impacts wildlife. So . . .everybody's favourite . . .tailings ponds!

I think I saw a Yale study where the maximum that could be created by 1 cubic meter of seawater was 1 Kw/h, so I'd like to know where they get their 630kW from 200l of water, and how that 200l is going to get them a 600km range . . .

$1:

Price and sale date yet to be confirmed, but may cost more than £1m

Red flag, right there. You should know by now N_F that when sources don't produce their work, they are usually full of shit.

[N_Fiddledog]

If you actually could get more energy out of salt water than what you put into it in a commercially viable manner, then every aspect of life, politics and society would change and do so radically. It's that simple.

I've seen stories before about water energy companies (cars that run on water and such) that had a plan to have a plan. There was a Japanese company.

These guys though seem to be saying they're actually doing it. It can't be true, or the fabric of modern civilization would be shaking. So what's really happening then? Inquiring minds want to do know.

Somebody's getting ripped off somewhere, I think.

[ccga3359]

All I see is a concept car, lets see the proof of the vehicle moving under its own steam (sorry bad pun). At least hydrogen cars are beyond concept stage. Just need the infrastructure to support further development.

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Red flag, right there. You should know by now N_F that when sources don't produce their work, they are usually full of shit.

Hell yeah. I've investigated enough of that science by press release, look-at-my-pretty-GIGO computer model, climate catastrophe bullshit to know that in spades. You should know that.

[raydan]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Something is wrong with this article.

You mean besides the fact that it's from MailOnline?

[N_Fiddledog]

raydan raydan:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Something is wrong with this article.

You mean besides the fact that it's from MailOnline?

Yes. It is as credible as other mainstream publications, but they all must be questioned from time to time when the BS is too obvious.

Don't think so? Give me the name of another mainstream media outlet you find more credible. (Please, please say NBC) I'll spend a few minutes on Google.

It is to be expected that MailOnline as the most visited online news site in the world would become a target, but in truth it is no less credible than the other mainstreamers.

[raydan]

I sometimes wonder why I even bother reading/listening to the news... even the weather channel gets it wrong 9 times out of ten.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

All I see is a concept car, lets see the proof of the vehicle moving under its own steam (sorry bad pun). At least hydrogen cars are beyond concept stage. Just need the infrastructure to support further development.

Hydrogen powered cars, that sends a shiver down my spine.

"Our top story tonight on News at Eleven. Two hydrogen powered cars collided downtown earlier today. There were 17,000 casualties and what's left of downtown is now somewhere on the east side".

[DrCaleb]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

ccga3359 ccga3359:

All I see is a concept car, lets see the proof of the vehicle moving under its own steam (sorry bad pun). At least hydrogen cars are beyond concept stage. Just need the infrastructure to support further development.

Hydrogen powered cars, that sends a shiver down my spine.

"Our top story tonight on News at Eleven. Two hydrogen powered cars collided downtown earlier today. There were 17,000 casualties and what's left of downtown is now somewhere on the east side".

Hydrogen isn't dangerous, and it is the most abundant element. Hydrogen + oxygen + spark = where the fun is.

The biggest problem with hydrogen is the atom is small enough to creep between the atoms of the container holding it. A natural gas fuel cell would provide more power density than a reverse osmosis seawater system, but fuel cells also have a problem in that they don't like to be in motion.

Gasoline is still the best we have for energy density. At least till Elon Musk gets the giga battery factory up and running. Vanadium batteries for all!

[Delwin]

4 Years back this same inventor was convicted of fraud for robbing investors of 44 million francs for his "miracle" solar panels on the exact same car. Not sure why the mail decided not to disclose this. Oh yes I do they SUCK!

$1:

The impostor pretended to have revolutionized the alternative energy market and even exhibited a sports car at the Geneva Motor Show in 2010 to showcase the technology, the newspaper reported online on Tuesday.

The solar cell appears to have been as fraudulent as his scientific credentials (a doctorate in physics, which he reportedly bought), the canton of Zug’s supreme court ruled in a decision reported by Blick and other Swiss media.

The man, the son of Italian immigrants, convinced an elderly trading company heiress to invest 44 million francs in NLV, a letter box company based in the canton of Zug, Blick said.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20131015/solar-c ... epay-heirs