[Newsbot]

Title: Temperatures in 2015 on track to be record 1 degree C hotter
Category: Environmental
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-11-09 17:13:26
Canadian

[N_Fiddledog]

Boy, CBC is pushing hard this week. Paris must be getting close.

Oh yeah.

Canada must commit to heavy lifting at Paris climate conference: groups

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... nce-groups

[Freakinoldguy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Boy, CBC is pushing hard this week. Paris must be getting close.

Oh yeah.

Canada must commit to heavy lifting at Paris climate conference: groups

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... nce-groups

Yeah, 91% inefficient wind farms for everyone.

[N_Fiddledog]

And everybody pays except these guys.

http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=93712

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Boy, CBC is pushing hard this week. Paris must be getting close.

Oh yeah.

Canada must commit to heavy lifting at Paris climate conference: groups

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... nce-groups

I guess you missed the thousands of other articles on this.

And, I didn't think you were one to argue facts. Fact is, we will exceed by 1 degree the average pre-industrial temperature by the end of this year. At the rate we are releasing greenhouse gasses, it won't take another 150 years to rise the other 1 degree before we start to see changes that we can't stop. More like 50 years.

But hey, blame the CBC if that's what makes you feel good!

[N_Fiddledog]

On the same day we got this one on the news page we also got this 'Chicken Little, boiling oceans' catastrophe prophecy.

$1:

Climate change could push more than 100 million people into extreme poverty by 2030 by disrupting agriculture and fueling the spread of malaria and other diseases, the World Bank said in a report Sunday.

And this is based on the same GIGO, confirmation bias, computer imaginings that gave us Shrek so it's gotta be true, right?

My impression is the secretarial pool we call a media (but yes the CBC in particular) has been piling predictions of doom on thicker as Paris gets closer.

Now as to your "facts". Yes it is a fact that the organizations that recently rewrote the global temperatures to erase the 'inconvenient truth' of an almost 19 year pause in this warming that's supposed to be bringing warmageddon now are telling us there is a prediction of a global increase of a degree in temperature by the end of the year.

It's an El Nino year. El Nino is a natural occurrence. This coming El Nino might be as strong as the super El Nino of 1998. These guys projecting the increase are not projecting a 1 degree increase to the 1998 El Nino year.

And did you catch this bit from the state-run media?

$1:

We're halfway to 2 degree C increase set by governments as a limit to avoid dangerous warming levels

Ooh...and oh noes. Justin and Gerry see the boiling oceans coming too. Please, please get on your private jet to Paris right away Justin. Take lots of pens Gerry. Save us. Oh and you're taking Elizabeth May with you, are you? Thank Gaia! We're saved. Quick government sign away as much of Canada as you can. Save us from the boiling oceans CBC suggests are on their way.

BTW, would you like to actually help poor nations in real life, CBC? Push for getting them some cheap energy. No not windmills. Look to your last great social engineering project in Ontario and see why that would be dumb. Getting away with dumb doesn't mean you have to be dumber.

[BartSimpson]

It's a damned good thing that the world has warmed up since the Little Ice Age!

Famines were widespread due to the cold climate reducing or eliminating crop yields.

http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia ... e_age.html

$1:

Western Europe experienced a general cooling of the climate between the years 1150 and 1460 and a very cold climate between 1560 and 1850 that brought dire consequences to its peoples. The colder weather impacted agriculture, health, economics, social strife, emigration, and even art and literature. Increased glaciation and storms also had a devastating affect on those that lived near glaciers and the sea.

So it's NOT a bad thing that we've had some warming since then. And the warming trend started with the end of the Little Ice Age - well before any human industrial activity could have altered the climate.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

On the same day we got this one on the news page we also got this 'Chicken Little, boiling oceans' catastrophe prophecy.

No one said anything about chickens or oceans. Just you. Again.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

$1:

Climate change could push more than 100 million people into extreme poverty by 2030 by disrupting agriculture and fueling the spread of malaria and other diseases, the World Bank said in a report Sunday.

And this is based on the same GIGO, confirmation bias, computer imaginings that gave us Shrek so it's gotta be true, right?

No, the models for climate and Shrek are completely different.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

My impression is the secretarial pool we call a media (but yes the CBC in particular) has been piling predictions of doom on thicker as Paris gets closer.

Confirmation bias lately?

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Now as to your "facts". Yes it is a fact that the organizations that recently rewrote the global temperatures to erase the 'inconvenient truth' of an almost 19 year pause in this warming that's supposed to be bringing warmageddon now are telling us there is a prediction of a global increase of a degree in temperature by the end of the year.

There was no pause, and the data was not 'rewritten'. The ocean temperature record was added, nothing more. But you already knew that, you just want a reason to throw a hissy fit.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

It's an El Nino year. El Nino is a natural occurrence. This coming El Nino might be as strong as the super El Nino of 1998. These guys projecting the increase are not projecting a 1 year increase to the 1998 El Nino year.

El Nino hasn't begun to show it's strength, and that has nothing to do with average temperatures for the last 100 years.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And did you catch this bit from the state-run media?

$1:

We're halfway to 2 degree C increase set by governments as a limit to avoid dangerous warming levels

"As a limit" being the key. Over 2 degrees, and changes will come faster than we can adapt.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Ooh...Justin and Gerry see the boiling oceans coming. Please, please get on your private jet to Paris right away Justin. Take lots of pens Gerry. Save us. Oh and you're taking Elizabeth May with you, are you? Thank Gaia! We're saved. Quick government sign away as much of Canada as you can. Save us from the boiling oceans CBC suggests are on their way.

Again, an incoherent rant about oceans. Have you seen your therapist about these oceans you refer to?

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BTW the way. Would you like to actually help poor nations in real life, CBC? Push for getting them some cheap energy. No not windmills. Look to your last great social engineering project in Ontario and see why that would be dumb. Getting away with dumb doesn't mean you have to be dumber.

Wind and solar are the cheap energy that they can afford. You really want to give someplace like Eritrea a nuke? And I don't live in Ontario, what happens there is your own damn fault.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

My impression is the secretarial pool we call a media (but yes the CBC in particular) has been piling predictions of doom on thicker as Paris gets closer.

Confirmation bias lately?

In this one he's correct. Google News shows 2189 stories mentioning 'climate' for the past 24 hours.

In the same 24-hour time part ending on October 10, 2015 at 12pm PST there were 381 stories mentioning 'climate'.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

My impression is the secretarial pool we call a media (but yes the CBC in particular) has been piling predictions of doom on thicker as Paris gets closer.

Confirmation bias lately?

In this one he's correct. Google News shows 2189 stories mentioning 'climate' for the past 24 hours.

In the same 24-hour time part ending on October 10, 2015 at 12pm PST there were 381 stories mentioning 'climate'.

Given that there is a Conference on 'Climate' in Paris in a couple weeks it makes sense there would be more articles with that word. I see about 69,000 articles of news stories in the last 24 hours with the word 'climate' in it, but 17,000 with the words 'climate study' in them.

I see 48,000 with the words 'Donald Trump' in them, and I don't have the perception that news about him is surging before the next Republican Debate.

[DrCaleb]

The point being though, there aren't more climate studies out lately, it's just a perception.

[ShepherdsDog]

All the studies seem to say that we (Canada) will benefit......just need gun boats on the coastlines to keep the wogs out

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The point being though, there aren't more climate studies out lately, it's just a perception.

Fiddy was talking about CBC which reports on studies. Thus the perception is correct that there are more climate stories right now. Fiddy said nothing about there being more climate studies in that particular comment.

[ShepherdsDog]

All the studies seem to say that we (Canada) will benefit......just need gun boats on the coastlines to keep the wogs out

[OnTheIce]

I love how you guys talk about this subject, week after week ,and bring the same points forward and haven't yet realized that you're not going to change anyone's mind.

Why you guys feel the need to waste so much time on the same topic over and over again is just mind boggling.