[Newsbot]

Title: Someone is spying on cellphones in the nation's capital
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2017-04-03 17:08:51
Canadian

[shockedcanadian]

I wonder which human right hating, ally back stabbing police force it was this time...who called for the global cell tap, Little Vinny or Uncle Bobby?

[Thanos]

More like some of the Russian friends of your hero Trump.

[shockedcanadian]

Thanos Thanos:

More like some of the Russian friends of your hero Trump.

He isn't my hero, I wanted Rubio or Rand Paul in the primaries. Once he was the GOP nominee and I took the earplugs out of my ears and listened to him, it was clear he had a far better plan for America than Hillary and was beholden to far fewer people. If you think Russia is a problem with Trump, consider how many International leaders and conmen were paying to play in the hopes Clinton won?

As it stands, this spying was most certainly domestic. If not, CSIS was using the CBC to let whatever foreign entity who is doing this that they are aware of it. Which, ultimately doesn't do much good if they can't prevent it.

My guess is that it's a domestic agency.

[ShepherdsDog]

He's paranoid that the microwave at the nurse's station is recording his every move. That's how the 'CBSA' stopped him from entering the States.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

More like some of the Russian friends of your hero Trump.

Oh, fuck off already with your deranged hatred of Trump. It's become tiresome.

It's far more likely that it's just your own government spying on you people with a StingRay.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

It's far more likely that it's just your own government spying on you people with a StingRay.

The article does say the Russians have been caught at it before.

$1:

Based on his experience, he sees two very different potential explanations for the results. One domestic, the other foreign.

He said Russia has used IMSI catchers in Canada before.

"We learned that Russian intelligence was parked near CSIS with equipment on board to do IMSI catching. After X number of days or weeks, they're capable of identifying the IMSI numbers that belong to intelligence officers because the phones were spending eight hours a day in the same spot."

He said when the Russians would do their next clandestine operation, they would use an IMSI catcher to see if any of the numbers associated with Canadian intelligence were nearby. If there were, they would call off the operation.

The Russian Embassy rejects any allegation that Russians have used IMSI catchers in Ottawa.

"Any suggestions as to that kind of activities are bogus and baseless," said an embassy spokesperson.

A representative from the Chinese Embassy told us it was "not only unreasonable but even irresponsible" to suggest that country would be involved in the activity.

Israel said it had no knowledge of the issue, and the United States declined to comment.

Everyone spies on everyone. Nothing to see. Move along, move along.

[Thanos]

Back in the Cold War there were as many spies In Ottawa as there were in DC or London. Every Western/NATO capital city was either penetrated or attempts to penetrate were incessantly made. That's a reality and, just like the terrorist infrastructure the KGB built throughout the Muslim world for decades (leading up to Sept 11 2001), that spy infrastructure never goes away.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

It's far more likely that it's just your own government spying on you people with a StingRay.

The article does say the Russians have been caught at it before.

$1:

"We learned that Russian intelligence was parked near CSIS with equipment on board to do IMSI catching."

Uh-huh. And how did they get this information? If it is true (which I doubt) then the most likely way for them to detect a cell phone tower simulator is if they were using their own cell phone tower simulator in close proximity to the other one.

Or they were using a StingRay and caught some Russians talking about it.

In any case the story sounds like:

"We were spying on Canadians when we caught the Russians spying on Canadians, those bastards!"

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

It's far more likely that it's just your own government spying on you people with a StingRay.

The article does say the Russians have been caught at it before.

$1:

"We learned that Russian intelligence was parked near CSIS with equipment on board to do IMSI catching."

Uh-huh. And how did they get this information? If it is true (which I doubt) then the most likely way for them to detect a cell phone tower simulator is if they were using their own cell phone tower simulator in close proximity to the other one.

Or they were using a StingRay and caught some Russians talking about it.

In any case the story sounds like:

"We were spying on Canadians when we caught the Russians spying on Canadians, those bastards!"

Also, in the article:

$1:

To do the investigation, our journalists used a device that detects IMSI catchers created by the German company GSMK. While it looks like a regular cellphone, the CryptoPhone emits an alert when a fake cellphone antenna intercepts its signal.

Media in the United States, Norway and Australia have done similar tests, but this is the first time it's been used by a media outlet in Canada.

During tests in December and January, the CryptoPhone set off alerts at locations around Parliament Hill, including the nearby Byward Market, the Rideau Centre shopping mall and CBC offices in downtown Ottawa.

Because IMSI catchers have a radius of about half a kilometre in an urban setting, the IMSI catchers CBC detected could reach territory including Parliament Hill, the Prime Minister's Office in Langevin Block, National Defence headquarters, as well as the U.S. and Israeli embassies.

We then used even more sophisticated equipment called an Overwatch Sensor that confirmed the presence of an IMSI catcher close to Parliament Hill.

[BartSimpson]

None of that means the IMSI in question was Russian. It could just as easily been Canadian.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

None of that means the IMSI in question was Russian. It could just as easily been Canadian.

It could have been. Or the US, or CSIS, or the Germans . . . but my overly dramatic friend was still right. The Russians are still in the running, due to past experience.

But, again with the article - agencies should have to get a warrant, and be obligated to destroy evidence not relevant to the investigation initiating that warrant.

We still have a right to resist unlawful search and seizure, if only from our own government.