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Title: Site C dam approved by B.C. government
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2014-12-17 06:38:17
Canadian

[wildrosegirl]

$1:

In making the announcement, Premier Christy Clark said the Site C Clean Energy Project will provide B.C. residents with a reliable source of power for the next 100 years for the least cost to the taxpayer.

I hope that's the biggest lie I have to listen to today!
BC isn't out of power. It's friggin California sucking it back, and it's the BC tax payers that foot the bill at $12+/unit, while the power suckers pay their locked in $4/unit.
And, it isn't just the natives opposed to Site C. VERY few people in the north peace aren't opposed.
Love the way they put the bullshit spin on this project.

[andyt]

BC boomed by building 2 dams on the Peace. Seems reasonable to expect that this dam too will Provide us with cheap energy and be good for our economy. Of course bulk buyers are going to pay a different rate than individual homes. Seems BC actually got spanked for overcharging California and had to pay 750 million to settle the suit.

Although I've read arguments that using natural gas for power generation with much lower up front investment and probably more flexibility too.

[DrCaleb]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

$1:

In making the announcement, Premier Christy Clark said the Site C Clean Energy Project will provide B.C. residents with a reliable source of power for the next 100 years for the least cost to the taxpayer.

I hope that's the biggest lie I have to listen to today!
BC isn't out of power. It's friggin California sucking it back, and it's the BC tax payers that foot the bill at $12+/unit, while the power suckers pay their locked in $4/unit.
And, it isn't just the natives opposed to Site C. VERY few people in the north peace aren't opposed.
Love the way they put the bullshit spin on this project.

^^ That.

It's fine if BC wants to sell cheap power southward, so long as it's 'clean power'. But 'dirty oil', well, they'll be having none of that!

[wildrosegirl]

andyt andyt:

BC boomed by building 2 dams on the Peace. Seems reasonable to expect that this dam too will Provide us with cheap energy and be good for our economy. Of course bulk buyers are going to pay a different rate than individual homes. Seems BC actually got spanked for overcharging California and had to pay 750 million to settle the suit.

Dig into the real story on that one.

California agreed to the "going rate" and then sued after they realized that was more than they had their customers locked into. When BC went to cut off California for nonpayment after the first 6 months, Duke Energy (check out who owns that) suddenly bought out the transmission line system. THEN they issued the "spanking" and BC residents' bills tripled within two billing periods to cover California's bill.
We went from $4 to $12 in two months. Horseshit is what the whole deal is.

[wildrosegirl]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

$1:

In making the announcement, Premier Christy Clark said the Site C Clean Energy Project will provide B.C. residents with a reliable source of power for the next 100 years for the least cost to the taxpayer.

I hope that's the biggest lie I have to listen to today!
BC isn't out of power. It's friggin California sucking it back, and it's the BC tax payers that foot the bill at $12+/unit, while the power suckers pay their locked in $4/unit.
And, it isn't just the natives opposed to Site C. VERY few people in the north peace aren't opposed.
Love the way they put the bullshit spin on this project.

^^ That.

It's fine if BC wants to sell cheap power southward, so long as it's 'clean power'. But 'dirty oil', well, they'll be having none of that!

Yep. Hypocrite bastards.
Always the same old story.

[andyt]

Your sentence can be take quite literally and make perfect sense. But, the same groups protesting your dirty oil will also be protesting our clean power. Tie it up in court for the foreseeable future. I doubt if BC could get a solar power project off the ground right now, without protesters coming out against the solar deprivation of the earthworms or something and the natives claiming infringements of their rights.

Anyway, not sure if any new projects involving dirty bitumen (if only if were oil,) will get off the ground until the oil price goes up again.

And calling it oil seems a stretch. You all should be exporting oil instead of bitumen.

[jj2424]

andyt andyt:

BC boomed by building 2 dams on the Peace. Seems reasonable to expect that this dam too will Provide us with cheap energy and be good for our economy. Of course bulk buyers are going to pay a different rate than individual homes. Seems BC actually got spanked for overcharging California and had to pay 750 million to settle the suit.

Although I've read arguments that using natural gas for power generation with much lower up front investment and probably more flexibility too.

BOOMED?

When did that happen. In BC they call 6% unemployment a BOOM, Alberta calls it a recession.

[andyt]

Anterograde amnesia? Might explain why y'all have a 7 billion dollar hole in your budget.

[Alta_redneck]

I hope BC learned from the 70's what a waste land they create when they don't harvest the trees in the proposed lake before its flooded.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

You all should be exporting oil instead of bitumen.

Once we see mineral leases to companies, it's not 'ours' anymore. It's up to the company to get it to market, not 'us'. But I agree, we should tax raw bitumen higher than oil.

And, BTW, earthworms are an invasive species.

[jj2424]

andyt andyt:

BC boomed by building 2 dams on the Peace. Seems reasonable to expect that this dam too will Provide us with cheap energy and be good for our economy. Of course bulk buyers are going to pay a different rate than individual homes. Seems BC actually got spanked for overcharging California and had to pay 750 million to settle the suit.

Although I've read arguments that using natural gas for power generation with much lower up front investment and probably more flexibility too.

BC DEBT clock...

“B.C.’s provincial debt will grow by a billion dollars every single quarter over the next three years – even with so-called balanced budgets,” said Jordan Bateman, the CTF’s British Columbia director. “By 2016, today’s $57 billion debt will top $69.4 billion. We need to stop this clock.”

B.C.’s debt grows by:
•$209 per second
•$12,515 per minute
•$750,913 per hour
•$18 million per day
•about a million dollars every 80 minutes

http://globalnews.ca/news/674771/b-c-s- ... -province/


It's 10 am so I'm sure Andy won't be responding till 4:24. After his shared internet comes back on.

[herbie]

Fuck it. Build it.
The issue should be why the cost has got so goddam outrageous.
Then start looking at geothermal power for fucks sakes.

[BartSimpson]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

I hope BC learned from the 70's what a waste land they create when they don't harvest the trees in the proposed lake before its flooded.

That's silly. Who'd want all that debris clogging up the works in the new dam?

[Alta_redneck]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

I hope BC learned from the 70's what a waste land they create when they don't harvest the trees in the proposed lake before its flooded.

That's silly. Who'd want all that debris clogging up the works in the new dam?

It is, isn't it. try boating on them, friggin deadheads all over the place, it was good for the beachcombers. There was a log boom at the head of the lake, I bet it covered 10 acres easily. My dad would take the boat down there and walk around on the log boom catching giant Dolly Varden through the openings between the logs.

Sugar Lake BC, I just about drowned there, the beach was just a 50M swim up shore from the camp ground. First day there i start out and all of a sudden there's grey water monsters reaching from the depths, that's what a 9 year old thinks.

It was full grown trees still rooted into the ground in about 30 ft of water, with that stringy water moss on them. I could swim like a fish but at that moment I panicked and couldn't float no more. Looking down on a tree really messes with your head.