[Newsbot]

Title: Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reaches record levels as it hits 20 MILLION square kilometers
Category: Environmental
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2014-10-08 00:38:48
Canadian

[DrCaleb]

Terrible news. That means the land ice is melting even faster than predicted.

[jj2424]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Terrible news. That means the land ice is melting even faster than predicted.

Melting during winter


Are you sure you don't live in downtown Toronto? Do you work for the NDP?

[DrCaleb]

jj2424 jj2424:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Terrible news. That means the land ice is melting even faster than predicted.

Melting during winter

Are you sure you don't live in downtown Toronto? Do you work for the NDP?

You really aren't very bright are you? You do understand that as freshwater land ice melts, it dilutes the sea water and that freezes at a higher temperature than salt water? In the winter, this diluted sea water freezes more than sea water would. And in summer, it also melts faster.

You'd think a plumber would understand simple concepts like how water works.

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

jj2424 jj2424:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Terrible news. That means the land ice is melting even faster than predicted.

Melting during winter

Are you sure you don't live in downtown Toronto? Do you work for the NDP?

You really aren't very bright are you? You do understand that as freshwater land ice melts, it dilutes the sea water and that freezes at a higher temperature than salt water? In the winter, this diluted sea water freezes more than sea water would. And in summer, it also melts faster.

You'd think a plumber would understand simple concepts like how water works.

Fascinating...so why is the Arctic ice melt increasing then?

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

jj2424 jj2424:

Melting during winter

Are you sure you don't live in downtown Toronto? Do you work for the NDP?

You really aren't very bright are you? You do understand that as freshwater land ice melts, it dilutes the sea water and that freezes at a higher temperature than salt water? In the winter, this diluted sea water freezes more than sea water would. And in summer, it also melts faster.

You'd think a plumber would understand simple concepts like how water works.

Fascinating...so why is the Arctic ice melt increasing then?

An excellent question.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Terrible news. That means the land ice is melting even faster than predicted.

So feel free to explain to all of us how this phenomenon applied and functioned during the ice age?

[N_Fiddledog]

Polar vortex, right?

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

An excellent question.

Don't you wish you had a similar sort of answer for it?

Maybe ice-melty-freezy science only works in the South, but not in the North.

Just trying to help.

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

You'd think a plumber would understand simple concepts like how water works.

The problem isn't the stupid people, Doc. The problem is that the stupid people don't know they're stupid.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

You'd think a plumber would understand simple concepts like how water works.

The problem isn't the stupid people, Doc. The problem is that the stupid people don't know they're stupid.

No, the problem is stupid people who have advanced degrees and who are possessed by the misconception that merely having an advanced degree somehow confers intelligence upon them.

[N_Fiddledog]

OK, so let me see if I understand.

There's this phenomena, and it works in the South, but not in the North, and the reason for the obvious contradiction to common sense there is 'anybody who notices the nonsense of it is stupid'. Is that correct?

Speaking of stupid...

[stratos]

Okay now for me to sound stupid answering the question of why land ice is not melting in the artic.... There is no artic land, Antartica is a land mass thus it can have land ice. The artic is a water mass with no major land formations (just a few islands if any land at all).

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

So feel free to explain to all of us how this phenomenon applied and functioned during the ice age?

We're in an ice age.

This is what I'm talking about. You refuse to even grasp the very basics of the subject matter, but seem oblivious to the fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

[N_Fiddledog]

stratos stratos:

Okay now for me to sound stupid answering the question of why land ice is not melting in the artic.... There is no artic land, Antartica is a land mass thus it can have land ice. The artic is a water mass with no major land formations (just a few islands if any land at all).

No problem. That's the obvious question. Here's the answer...

The land ice in the Arctic is melting, or at least it was. You've heard of Greenland for instance. At one time they were trumpeting Alaskan glacier melt. Supposedly it was going to cause volcano eruptions as the earth shifted.

A thing Suzuki, Gore, the CBC, BBC, and the Guardian won't tell you is not that much of the Antarctic has experienced this land melt. There's a peninsula that spears up towards the tropics and is affected by currents. There's another area in the Western artic that is peppered with underwater volcanoes. These can melt the ocean ice shelf allowing the glacial land ice to tumble in unhindered.

What's melting in Antarctic is not actually that comparatively large an area. The rest of it is freezing like deep space.