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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:29 pm
 


Title: Rural Coloradans to vote on forming new state
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Posted By: martin14
Date: 2013-08-20 12:17:58


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:29 pm
 


The grass is always greener on the other side. It's not easy, or cheap, to run a state. Methinks this initiative will die once they see what the initial start up costs will be.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:34 pm
 


Maybe, sure sign of the divisions in America though.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:24 pm
 


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... picks=true

Looks like this thing in Colorado is starting to become serious. Talk radio down here is beginning to take a look at this thing as it first started out looking like a joke and now it's becoming possible they could pull this off in the elections next year.

While these counties may well secede from Colorado what remains to be seen is if they'd be admitted as a state. It's possible they'll become a territory instead. The good news for them is that will exempt them from Federal income taxes.

On an aside, there's a little chatter that counties from neighboring states *might* join in to help form the backbone for the new state. Maybe.

Edit: It's also possible that Congress would encourage them to join Wyoming.

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DENVER — Colorado’s 51st state movement gained steam Tuesday as commissioners in three more rural counties agreed to add the question to their November ballots.

That brings to seven the number of counties considering whether to split from the state and form a new state, tentatively called Northern Colorado, in reaction to the Democratic state Legislature’s so-called “war on rural Colorado.”

An eighth county, Kit Carson, is expected to vote Wednesday on whether to join the 51st state movement by placing a referendum before the voters on the Nov. 5 ballot.

Commissioners in Logan and Yuma counties agreed Tuesday to put the referendum on the ballot, while the Phillips County Commission did so late Monday. The deadline to add a measure to the November ballot is Sept. 5.

So far all the counties are located in northeastern Colorado, near the Wyoming border, but the movement could expand to the state’s Western Slope. At its meeting Tuesday, the Moffat County Commission discussed putting the measure up for a vote.

Moffat County is located in the northwestern corner of Colorado, abutting Wyoming and Utah. There are 64 counties in Colorado, most of which are rural and conservative, but the state’s population centers lie in liberal Denver and Boulder.

“If we had a governor that was actually a governor and not a mayor of Denver — of the Front Range — then this secession wouldn’t be happening,” said Moffat County Commissioner Tom Mathers in the Craig Daily Press.

Colorado liberals have dismissed the movement as sour grapes. Democrats are on the rise in Colorado, controlling both houses of the state Legislature and the governor’s office.

Alan Franklin, political director of ProgressNow Colorado, mocked the movement by posting a fake “State of North Colorado” flag on the 51st State Initiative’s Facebook page, showing pictures of a pig, two rifles, an oil derrick, and a fetus.

“Farms. Fetuses. Firearms. Fracking. Freedom!” said Mr. Franklin in a July 29 Twitter post.

Jeffrey Hare, spokesman for the 51st State Initiative, said the joke illustrates the disconnect between Colorado’s liberal elite and the rest of the state’s residents, who really do support causes such as gun rights and the pro-life movement.

“The flag was meant to mock Northern Colorado, but we kind of feel like it represents us,” said Mr. Hare.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:31 pm
 


Will the vote only have to be 50% + 1 ? ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:51 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Will the vote only have to be 50% + 1 ? ;)


Given the demographics of that part of Colorado it'd pass even if it had to be 75% +1.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:56 pm
 


If they base the new "state" economy on The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged it's guaranteed they'll all be on welfare within five years.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:09 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
If they base the new "state" economy on The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged it's guaranteed they'll all be on welfare within five years.


They're sitting on a sh*tload of oil so I doubt they're worried about money. Conversely, the Democrats in Denver are right about now sh*tting themselves over how they're going to replace about $17 billion in lost tax revenues.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:51 pm
 


Please when was the last time a Democrat learned to stop biting the hand that feeds?? Those nut jobs bite the hand X100 times a day. Bart you live in one of those nut job State's :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:52 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thanos Thanos:
If they base the new "state" economy on The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged it's guaranteed they'll all be on welfare within five years.


They're sitting on a sh*tload of oil so I doubt they're worried about money. Conversely, the Democrats in Denver are right about now sh*tting themselves over how they're going to replace about $17 billion in lost tax revenues.

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How are those people "feeding" anyone? They are merely in a fortunate location, they haven't done bupkis otherwise.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:04 am
 


Yeah, Coloradans. "You didn't build that!" :x


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:55 am
 


This is just the tip of the iceberg. Almost any voting map in the US shows a huge divide this way.

It's going to be Canada's next big battle too - rural vs urban. Lots of people wonder why PEI has more senators than Alberta or why rural ridings have fewer people per capita than urban ridings.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:21 am
 


sandorski sandorski:

How are those people "feeding" anyone? They are merely in a fortunate location, they haven't done bupkis otherwise.



Please go up to Fort Mac and say that...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:26 am
 


martin14 martin14:
sandorski sandorski:

How are those people "feeding" anyone? They are merely in a fortunate location, they haven't done bupkis otherwise.



Please go up to Fort Mac and say that...



hhahahahahaha

And bring a film crew when you do please.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:17 am
 


It's demographics. So the urban areas will win.


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