[Newsbot]

Title: Rising carbon emissions from oilsands a 'unique' challenge, federal cabinet told
Category: Environmental
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-05-20 08:30:20
Canadian

[andyt]

If Canada has to buy foreign ghg credits to offset the oilsands, who pays for that?

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

If Canada has to buy foreign ghg credits to offset the oilsands, who pays for that?

Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan.

[Thanos]

Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism!

[2Cdo]

Thanos Thanos:

Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism!

I got a call a few days ago from a smaller company wanting to hire me in early June. They are actually busy so I might cut my holiday off, 2.5 months is enough. Hopefully I'll be back to work contributing to Canadas emissions, pissing off loons like andy!

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan.

There's an enormous body of environmental economics research that says you're wrong. There are fair criticisms of cap and trade systems but you're outright dismissal is ignorant.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan.

There's an enormous body of environmental economics research that says you're wrong. There are fair criticisms of cap and trade systems but you're outright dismissal is ignorant.

Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

My outright dismissal is far from ignorant.

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

My outright dismissal is far from ignorant.

You need to take an environmental economics course before you comment, because you are speaking from a position of ignorance. No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

My outright dismissal is far from ignorant.

You need to take an environmental economics course before you comment, because you are speaking from a position of ignorance. No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, real world experience trumped by a course.

[ShepherdsDog]

calling someone ignorant while failing to differentiate between a possessive form and a contraction.....hmmmmm

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.

You should heed your own advice.

[Thanos]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Thanos Thanos:

Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism!

I got a call a few days ago from a smaller company wanting to hire me in early June. They are actually busy so I might cut my holiday off, 2.5 months is enough. Hopefully I'll be back to work contributing to Canadas emissions, pissing off loons like andy!

All too little and too late to help me out. My part in the game is pretty much over.

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Yeah, real world experience trumped by a course.

No, there are plenty of real world case examples where emissions trading has worked. CFCs, the Fox River pollution in Wisconsin, to name two off the top of my head. Generally speaking, they work well when they're set up properly. So to dismiss them out of hand, as you have, displays ignorance of the numerous examples, real world examples, where the schemes have worked effectively.

[Lemmy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

calling someone ignorant while failing to differentiate between a possessive form and a contraction.....hmmmmm

Grammar cops should be careful to capitalize the first letter of their sentences.

[ShepherdsDog]

Since when do Frasers care about etiquette