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Title: Reevely: Ontario announces it will make buying pot difficult
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2017-09-08 15:23:42
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[shockedcanadian]

Wynne bending to the Will of her Stasi clowns at the OPP. What a country. What a province.

No wonder our allies don't trust us...

[Coach85]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Wynne bending to the Will of her Stasi clowns at the OPP. What a country. What a province.

No wonder our allies don't trust us...

Your an idiot.

It's one of the only good ideas they've come up with.

[martin14]

Coach85 Coach85:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Wynne bending to the Will of her Stasi clowns at the OPP. What a country. What a province.

No wonder our allies don't trust us...

Your an idiot.

It's one of the only good ideas they've come up with.

Big government puts Big Alcohol in charge of creating Big Dope, and openly
plan to destroy small businesses, while having more government control over
everything.


How is this a good thing ?

[Coach85]

martin14 martin14:

Coach85 Coach85:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Wynne bending to the Will of her Stasi clowns at the OPP. What a country. What a province.

No wonder our allies don't trust us...

Your an idiot.

It's one of the only good ideas they've come up with.

Big government puts Big Alcohol in charge of creating Big Dope, and openly
plan to destroy small businesses, while having more government control over
everything.


How is this a good thing ?

Which small business is being destroyed? An industry and retail sector is being created. Closing down 'businesses' that are illegal isn't 'destroying small business' as they have no business being open in the first place.

Selling it is a positive first step. Having the LCBO handle it makes sense as I don't want Mr. Wong at the corner store selling pot.

[BeaverFever]

It's not necessarily how I would have done it and so far none of my pot smoking friends are too impressed with the government monopoly of the retail market but it is an improvement from the current situation and I suspect in the long run a stepping stone to further liberalization from future governments maybe after 5 or 10 years.

[herbie]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Wynne bending to the Will of her Stasi clowns at the OPP. What a country. What a province.

No wonder our allies don't trust us...

Bending to the will of the RCMP, not the will of the government employee's union. Only YOU could have had that thought....

It will be interesting to see the BC policy. No way the gov't will leave their liquor stores out of the cash cow, but there's already more private stores running than Ontario plans to phase in!

[Coach85]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

It's not necessarily how I would have done it and so far none of my pot smoking friends are too impressed with the government monopoly of the retail market but it is an improvement from the current situation and I suspect in the long run a stepping stone to further liberalization from future governments maybe after 5 or 10 years.

The government will never release control of pot. Never.

Just like the LCBO, it will be another cash-cow with the government and unions fighting to keep it in the hands of the taxpayer.

[herbie]

You mean you don't have private liquor stores at all in Ontario? I didn't know that.

[BeaverFever]

Coach85 Coach85:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

It's not necessarily how I would have done it and so far none of my pot smoking friends are too impressed with the government monopoly of the retail market but it is an improvement from the current situation and I suspect in the long run a stepping stone to further liberalization from future governments maybe after 5 or 10 years.

The government will never release control of pot. Never.

Just like the LCBO, it will be another cash-cow with the government and unions fighting to keep it in the hands of the taxpayer.

Yeah perhaps but look at the direction things are going with alcohol, which has already been liberalized slightly and probably more to come

[Coach85]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Coach85 Coach85:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

It's not necessarily how I would have done it and so far none of my pot smoking friends are too impressed with the government monopoly of the retail market but it is an improvement from the current situation and I suspect in the long run a stepping stone to further liberalization from future governments maybe after 5 or 10 years.

The government will never release control of pot. Never.

Just like the LCBO, it will be another cash-cow with the government and unions fighting to keep it in the hands of the taxpayer.

Yeah perhaps but look at the direction things are going with alcohol, which has already been liberalized slightly and probably more to come

And how long did that change take?

I don't see us selling pot in Metro stores anytime soon.

[BeaverFever]

herbie herbie:

You mean you don't have private liquor stores at all in Ontario? I didn't know that.

There is some private liquor sale allowed in Ontario

You can buy alcohol directly ar any brewery, distillery or winery.

Last year, the province approved 150 grocery stores to sell small quantities of wine and beer, with an eye to further expansion in the future.

There are a few private wine retail chains, such as Wine Rack, each owned by different consortiums of Ontario based wine makers. Combined, they total about 300 private wine stores across the province. The downside is that they tend to mostly stock their own products.

Since prohibition days, the Ontario-based beer industry has held province-wide monopoly rights to private sale of beer through a retail chain called The Beer Store, which sells about 80% of the beer sold in Ontario, including the sales to bars and restaurants. People rightly complain that the stores are unattractive and many are warehouse-like with just an order counter and the beer comes rolling down a roller belt from a store room in the back. Also due to corporate mergers and acquisitions, the 30 "Ontario brewers" who once owned the Beer Store are now owned by three multinationals: Molson-Coors, Labatt (Anheuser-Busch InBev) and Sleeman (owned by Sapporo). This consortium has been accused of abusing the monopoly to favour their products and particularly overcharging/understocking independent craft beers. Under a formal written agreement, LCBO sells only a limited selection of beer in markets where Beer Store has a presence (and in singles and 6-packs only) in a tragic case of crony capitalism (I won't say which premier ordered that agreement but I'm sure you can guess).

I have no complaints about LCBO, the stores are attractive, there are numerous convenient locations and with the exception of the beer issue mentioned above, selection and variety is great. Over the past couple of years they've been stocking a lot more independent craft beer in response to backlash over the beer store.

[BeaverFever]

Coach85 Coach85:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Yeah perhaps but look at the direction things are going with alcohol, which has already been liberalized slightly and probably more to come

And how long did that change take?

I don't see us selling pot in Metro stores anytime soon.

Once the boulder starts rolling down the mountain, there's only one direction it can travel. I don't think it matters how long it sat on the mountain beforehand. Attitudes have changed. Pot is already fully legal in Colorado and other jurisdictions are liberalizing also. Maybe 5-10 years is overly optimistic but I'm sure by the time the next generation is old enough to buy pot, they'll have more options than lcbo. Maybe not Metro, but perhaps drugstores or chains owned by the same suppliers that will be supplying the lcbo.

[herbie]

They just allowed some grocery stores to sell BC wine here. Making a NAFTA stink and we're talking 6 lousy stores.
Main grocery chain is owned by the biggest supporter of the BC Libs who are now out on their arses...
Lots of independent places here for beer, wine and liquor. All who charge more and pay workers way less....