[Newsbot]

Title: RCMP head Bob Paulson supports DNA collection on arrest
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2013-12-06 09:06:49
Canadian

[DrCaleb]

Hey boys and girls, can you say "Unlawful search and seizure?" I knew you could!

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Hey boys and girls, can you say "Unlawful search and seizure?" I knew you could!

Yep. Want to check someone's DNA? Just make up some BS excuse to arrest them, swab them for DNA, and then let them go.

I guarandamntee you that false arrests will skyrocket if this policy is adopted.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Hey boys and girls, can you say "Unlawful search and seizure?" I knew you could!

Yep. Want to check someone's DNA? Just make up some BS excuse to arrest them, swab them for DNA, and then let them go.

I guarandamntee you that false arrests will skyrocket if this policy is adopted.

Exactly my thoughts. The standard now it 'on conviction'. I don't see how the violation of rights is justified in order to justify the unsubstantiated increase in solving cases. No guarantee that anyone is safer, only a guarantee that people are less free than they were before.

And that's not counting how our government will give this new database of valuable information to the US, UK, AUS and NZers.

[Zipperfish]

Get rid of the long gun registry and create a DNA registry. Brilliant.

[Public_Domain]

[Jabberwalker]

Do they actually have to make an arrest or is suspicion enough grounds? Are thy going to be like the Toronto police by targeting certain groups for DNA samples? ... "the RCMP Stop-And-Swab Program"?

[Xort]

Given the huge number of errors that happen with DNA testing having the police take and in theory test every person they arrest is just asking for trouble.

The only way I would support this is if false results from a lab carried a minimum sentence of 5 years per error for the techs and a million dollar fine for the lab.

[Jabberwalker]

The lab techs union would never go for it.

[Benn]

I'm not sure about this.

However it would have solved this case years. Ago
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 14551.html

[Freakinoldguy]

A self policing Force that's showing all the hallmarks of going completely off reservation when it comes to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and now they want to collect DNA samples from people they haven't even charged yet.

Sure why not.

I can't see a problem with this, can anyone else?

(sarcasm off)

The only DNA they should be collecting is the stuff that's filling the void between that dipshit Paulson's ears.

[Jabberwalker]

There seems to be a perception out there in the policing world that they are at war ... and that any of us are the potential enemy.

[andyt]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

There seems to be a perception out there in the policing world that they are at war ... and that any of us are the potential enemy.

Yes. Somebody wrote a book on it called, I believe "the militarization of policing." Thing is that this "occupying force" starts going after more and more "good" people, can't tell the diff between them and the scum that all deserve to be locked up and executed, as the hard on crime people would have it. Of course some of this is from the militarization of the gangs with the obscene profits they make on drugs, which motivates them to get more and more violent with each other to get those profits, and in turn become more of a threat to the police.

[Jabberwalker]

I doubt the current culture is any more or less criminal now than it has been for at least the last 100 years.

[andyt]

We have less crime since the 70's. I would guess most criminals use the same amount of violence they did then. But the gangs have definitely gotten more violent. And that's what gets the attention and response from police.