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Title: Pregnant girl, 14, allegedly burned to death by her in-laws | World | News | Tor
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: BartSimpson
Date: 2016-07-18 10:44:22
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[BartSimpson]

Because Islam is soooo much better than Western civilization.

[andyt]

Must be something about Islam that makes people do this.

[N_Fiddledog]

Or at least the cultures that are attracted around areas following Islamic doctrine.

This would be terrible enough if it was an isolated incident, or even local only to Afghanistan.

But it's not.

[andyt]

Hinduism certainly didn't spread out of Islam. Seems to have more to do with cultures that denigrate and oppress women, rather than a particular religion.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

Hinduism certainly didn't spread out of Islam.

I edited that while you were posting to " the cultures that are attracted around areas following Islamic doctrine."

We see a lot of incidents similar to this one lately in Pakistan and Egypt for example. But yeah, also the odd case in areas side by side, Muslims with Hindus or even Buddhists. The details rarely come out immediately, but when they do there's usually something Islamic in back of it.

The overall take home would be areas touched by Islam, currently though.

[BartSimpson]

True this isn't just occuring in Islam, but it's not like we have solid percentages of the population doing this kind of crap.

http://www.refinery29.com/2016/06/11431 ... nnsylvania

[andyt]

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Dowry deaths[edit]
A dowry death is the death of a young woman in South Asian countries, primarily India, who is murdered or driven to suicide by her husband. This results from the husband continually attempting to extract more dowry from the bride or her family. Bride burning is just one form of dowry death. Others include acid throwing and Eve teasing. Because dowry typically depends on class or socioeconomic status, women are often subjected to the dowry pressures of their future husband or his relatives.[2]
Origins of bride burning[edit]
There are at least four perspectives on why bride burning came to be and how its existence has prevailed in South Asian nations, as detailed by Avnita Lakhani in her report on bride burning titled “The Elephant in the Room Is Out of Control". These theories describe practices that contributed to the rise of dowry as a whole, thus ultimately contributing to bride burning.
One of the more culturally-founded theories suggests that in a highly patriarchal society such as India, a woman’s role is defined from before she is born, which ultimately places her as lesser than men.[9] Because she is seen as a burden and an "extra mouth to feed",[2] her status as an economic liability promotes the idea that men, who are considered physical assets, can treat women as subservient.[2] Once a woman marries, she is bound to her husband and his will because “society mandates obedience to her husband".[2][9]
Another theory claims that consumerism, a primarily Western ideal that is newly founded in developing nations, has caused countries like India to become greedy.[10] Because of this, dowry is used as a means to gain a higher socioeconomic status.[9] As status is continually gained, the demand for bridal dowry increases in order to keep moving up the social ladder.[2]
Lakhani also suggests that, historically speaking, it has been noted that the dowry system may have been conceived as a way to distinguish Muslim from Hindu culture,[9] creating a further divide within castes. A higher dowry would indicate a higher status and distinction from Islam, thus providing an incentive to demand a larger dowry.[9]
Finally, some scholars argue that the dowry practice came out of British rule and influence in India in order to distinguish "different forms of marriage" between castes.[2] When the dowry system was established within the higher castes, the British government sought to reinforce it in the lower castes as a means to eradicate their more ritualised marriages.[2] Such forms of union were discredited until only upper caste marriage systems were recognised.[2]

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nothing to do with Islam.

[N_Fiddledog]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

But yeah, also the odd case in areas side by side, Muslims with Hindus or even Buddhists. The details rarely come out immediately, but when they do there's usually something Islamic in back of it.

Now from your Wiki quote, Andy.

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Lakhani also suggests that, historically speaking, it has been noted that the dowry system may have been conceived as a way to distinguish Muslim from Hindu culture,[9] creating a further divide within castes. A higher dowry would indicate a higher status and distinction from Islam, thus providing an incentive to demand a larger dowry.[9]

Something Islamic niggling in the background. Islam more often than not does appear as at least a niggle nearby. If the Muslims leave the area do the burnings stop? Maybe not, but I wonder.

I suggest the possibility it may not even be the difference in status. It may be more about the cultural mindset Islamic doctrine brings to a community.

You don't appear to need Hindus nearby in the Muslim areas where honor killing burnings are happening.

[andyt]

Sure, that must be it. Hindus burn brides because Islam.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Sure, that must be it. Hindus burn brides because Islam.

Hindus burn brides because they have a lower carbon footprint than coal.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

Sure, that must be it. Hindus burn brides because Islam.

Let's consider that possibility for a sec. You don't appear to believe it could be one.

Start here from the wiki post.

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One of the more culturally-founded theories suggests that in a highly patriarchal society such as India, a woman’s role is defined from before she is born, which ultimately places her as lesser than men.[9] Because she is seen as a burden and an "extra mouth to feed",[2] her status as an economic liability promotes the idea that men, who are considered physical assets, can treat women as subservient.[2] Once a woman marries, she is bound to her husband and his will because “society mandates obedience to her husband".[2][9]

Earlier in the post they mentioned how the practice of bride-burning was growing and they couldn't understand why.

Very well, if we accept the root cause may be cultural I suggest this parallel fact for consideration.

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in India.

[Thanos]

In Pakistan the other day some female celebrity, a Pakistani Kim Kardashian type, got beaten to death by her own brother for behaving in an un-Islamic manner. Don't worry, the Muslims are still holding up their end or psychotic patriarchy quite well enough.

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Islam is the fastest-growing religion pestilence in India.

Islam: Making Leprosy look better since the year 700!

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