[Newsbot]

Title: PM labeled an 'amateur on the world stage'
Category: Political
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-12-04 00:50:00
Canadian

[gonavy47]

Sounds like Harper stood his ground, and Iggy is still an idiot.

[kenmore]

Harper is a twit and very immature on the world stage.. a real embarrassment!

[Annihilator]

Defending human rights is SO immature.

[Canadian_Mind]

huh, either this article is too liberally biased and incidentally making Iggy look stupid, or it is really right wing bias to make iggy look stupid.

Either way, I'm thinking we aren't really getting the whole picture.

[ridenrain]

Aside from the dalai lama, they could have talked about this guy also:

$1:

Canadian businessman jailed in China without charges
By Don Cayo, Vancouver Sun
November 11, 2009

VANCOUVER — A Canadian-Taiwanese businessman with Vancouver ties has been held without charge for nearly six months in China as result of a commercial dispute he was trying to resolve.
His family says Simon Chu hasn’t been allowed to speak with a lawyer since he was detained by police on May 17.
His brother, Yow-Lin of Vancouver, is the only family member who has been able to visit — a brief, police-supervised encounter in September after Yow-Lin’s third trip to the city of Baoding, 190 kilometres south of Beijing.
Former Vancouver mayor Sam Sullivan, a close friend who is known as “Uncle Sam” to children in Chu’s extended family, travelled to China last month to meet with the Minister for Overseas Chinese Li Haifeng.
Sullivan has also made a similar case in letters to several officials, including Chinese President Hu Jintao.
Chu, 42, is known in Vancouver through his holdings in the family-owned Plaza of Nations. He also owns a restaurant in Shanghai, where he lives most of the year, and a large textile factory in Baoding.
Until 2008 he was chairman of the Baoding factory, which employs 14,000 people. He stepped down from this senior post when he sold much of his holdings in the company, although he remained a shareholder.
In May, Chu travelled to China on his Taiwanese passport after hearing that the general manager had been arrested and the factory was plagued by labour unrest.
For the first month, Chu was isolated in a hotel. Then he was arrested and moved to a jail in Baoding — a holding facility for suspects awaiting trial.
Canadian foreign affairs officials have issued a warning to dual citizens, telling them to travel to China on their Canadian passports.

© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

[Zipperfish]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Sounds like Harper stood his ground, and Iggy is still an idiot.

You're no intellectual giant yourself there, buddy.

[Freakinoldguy]

Yup, I guess if getting approved destination status, something none of the previous Liberal Leaders could do, makes you an amateur, then, could someone please explain WTF Chretien was?

It would appear that Chinese Government knew who they could bitch slap and get away with it and who they couldn't, hence the recent agreement.

I guess Iggy is just pissed because he thought he'd be the PM by now and blew a bunch of money on tailors who had sewn patches on the knees of his pants for his first official visit to China.

[ridenrain]

The pork boycott is also over but I don't know if that was Harper or just hungry Chinese piggies.

[Wada]

China has come along way in the last five or six years, but that couldn't possibly have anything to do with Harper's success...or could it.

[EyeBrock]

And Iggy has done what exactly? Or lets go a bit lower, what has he suggested or said he would do?

Nobody knows, hence 23% in the polls.

[ridenrain]

Do remember that Ignatieff is a huge supporter of George Bush and America's human rights records.

[Akhenaten]

I dunno. Harper seems to have been tripped up by the events thus far. He's trying for the "Yes AND No" politics to cover his bases. One minute he's trying to be diplomatic the next minute he's yapping about human rights. I mean the fact is, we're going to do business with China. Not much sense being neurotic about it. Either we put on a constipated smile and turn a blind eye and deal with them, and then perhaps try and coax them to lighten up, OR you hold firm, citing human rights and their support of N.Korea and don't deal with them.


I've noticed the "blogosphere" out there has a sudden flux of strange sounding posters who innocently, "just would want to inform you of the many happy-joy-luck truths about China", though. makes you wonder.

[Unsound]

C'mon, we all know what would have happened if Harper had gotten all cosy with the Chinese the way the liberals seem to be suggesting he should have, he would have been accused of putting the almighty buck ahead of human rights. Seems to me he's done a good job of walking a thin line, he's gotten something from them without appearing to even tacitly approve of their human rights pracices.

[kenmore]

Annihilator Annihilator:

Defending human rights is SO immature.

Bah! such a defender! not!