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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:34 pm
 


Title: Pause in army operations no longer needed: Top soldier
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Date: 2009-07-22 21:12:16
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yeah army.


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Precursor to keep us in the "Stan past 2011


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PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:
Precursor to keep us in the "Stan past 2011


Probably true.


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Sure there's the money going towards new equipment, LAV's and upgrading the current LAVs.... but there still going to be required a period of time to actually repair and upgrade the current vehicles in rotation. Or do they plan on doing all of this on the fly as they head to the next mission planned out?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:46 pm
 


Just another Senior Officer spouting the Government line in order to secure a high paying position upon retirement.

Nothing to see here folks, just move along please.


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I guess those back channels from the white house are changing minds in Ottawa. :evil:


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Just another Senior Officer spouting the Government line in order to secure a high paying position upon retirement.

Nothing to see here folks, just move along please.


Andy McNaughtons grandson is no slouch and certainly isn't a pushover.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:47 pm
 


Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
I guess those back channels from the white house are changing minds in Ottawa. :evil:


It seems so mon ami.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:06 pm
 


Oh well, once more into the breech I suppose...


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SprCForr SprCForr:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Just another Senior Officer spouting the Government line in order to secure a high paying position upon retirement.

Nothing to see here folks, just move along please.


Andy McNaughtons grandson is no slouch and certainly isn't a pushover.



Whether the good General is or isn't a push over isn't the point here. The point is that as a public servant he is still required by law to carry out the will of the Government and if they tell him to state publicly that a pause isn't needed he's got two choices, whether he agrees with either or not. He can either resign or make that statement.

We all know that policy isn't made by the Military, they simply react to it. So I suspect that General Leslie had those two options given to him and chose to take the Governments point of view for whatever reasons.


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Whether the good General is or isn't a push over isn't the point here.


It's the point you're making isn't it? You're saying he's done it in the hopes of securing a high position. Just another toady if you like.

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The point is that as a public servant he is still required by law to carry out the will of the Government and if they tell him to state publicly that a pause isn't needed he's got two choices, whether he agrees with either or not. He can either resign or make that statement.


Really think Leslie's merely a sock puppet? Check his cv and see if you still think he needs the approval of a politican to secure a good position. You do the man a serious injustice given his accomplishments.

$1:
We all know that policy isn't made by the Military, they simply react to it. So I suspect that General Leslie had those two options given to him and chose to take the Governments point of view for whatever reasons.


We all know that coffee shop prattle shouldn't be used to pass judgement on issues and on people. That the man may be stating fact doesn't fit your pre-concieved notion of his character, does it?

It was a cheap drive-by smear.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:52 pm
 


FYI I was being sarcastic with my first post. I, not knowing General Leslie, have no idea's of his motivation for suddenly changing his opinion on the situation. But, maybe, in my old age I'm becomming far to sceptical.

I fully understand how the system works and I suppose in hindsight I shouldn't have infered he was attempting to secure a good job upon retirement, I'm quite sure he's got his reasons for the abrupt change of heart.

Either way, I did not intend to run a smear campaign against General Leslie personally, but I'd have no qualms about running one against the system that is NDHQ and it's political masters.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:13 pm
 


Fair enough.

As you allude to, there certainly is a political element when one is a General in the CF, but in his case he's a straight shooter and been one since day one.

If there ever was a picture needed to pin to the term "warrior-monk", it would be his.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:24 pm
 


SprCForr SprCForr:
Fair enough.

As you allude to, there certainly is a political element when one is a General in the CF, but in his case he's a straight shooter and been one since day one.

If there ever was a picture needed to pin to the term "warrior-monk", it would be his.


After witnessing the excesses of certain Senior Officers in the military during my time in, it's nice to see someone who's more concerned with the military than with getting their ticket punched for personal gain.

Although I am lothe to admit it, the Army seem to have more of these leaders than the other two services. :lol:


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