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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:50 am
The coach cut him, end of story. Just because he is disabled does not give him a place on the team.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:25 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: The coach cut him, end of story. Just because he is disabled does not give him an automatic place on the team. fixed that for ya.  And yes, as long as he was given the same chance, not seeing the problem. This headlong rush to the bottom where everyone gets a trophy and everyone plays on the same team no matter how bad they are has got to stop.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:32 am
Thanks for the fix, it is really what I meant. If he is that good Im sure another school or team will pick him up and this coach will be kicking himself for letting him go.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:26 am
$1: "As a mother, as a parent, I was devastated. But aside from that, I felt like it was discriminating," said Diane Burruto, mother of 16-year-old Anthony Burruto, No sweetie, discriminating would be to keep him on the team even if he doesn't qualify. He was given the same chance as everybody else.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:31 am
$1: "With only 40 roster spots, Anthony and 22 other students did not make either team," Dylan Thomas, director of public relations at Orange County Public Schools said in a statement. So where is the "discrimination" outrage for the other 22? They got the same chance, they didn't make it...
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:47 am
I've played a lot of baseball in my day and I've NEVER heard of a pitcher being cut because of poor fielding. Something doesn't quite add up here. If he was, legitimately, not one of the top 40 players in camp, fine. It's no more discrimination than cutting the fat kid that tried out. But if his arm is as good as the article describes, this sounds very fishy.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:03 am
Lemmy Lemmy: I've played a lot of baseball in my day and I've NEVER heard of a pitcher being cut because of poor fielding. Something doesn't quite add up here. If he was, legitimately, not one of the top 40 players in camp, fine. It's no more discrimination than cutting the fat kid that tried out. But if his arm is as good as the article describes, this sounds very fishy. Unless of course the pitcher chosen instead has a better arm. I'm all for inclusion of those with disabilities, but not at the expense of those kids with better skill. Now if the case is that the story doesn't add up then yes it would seem to be discrimination.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:17 am
Choban Choban: Unless of course the pitcher chosen instead has a better arm. Of course, but that's not the what the article describes. I'm suggesting that, if the coach says he cut him because he can't field a bunt, then the coach is full of shit. You don't cut great arms because they can't field. You don't cut great hitters because they can't field. If the kid's arm isn't up to snuff or his grades are bad or he's a pain-in-the-ass that the coach doesn't want on the team, those are other matters.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:19 am
Wouldn't the opposing team then just send him a lot of bunts, so his great arm is of no use?
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:32 am
No, you design your infield defense so that bunts are the responsibility of the 3B, 1B and/or catcher. If the kid's arm is as good as the article describes, no one's going to get aluminium on ball anyway.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:14 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: I've played a lot of baseball in my day and I've NEVER heard of a pitcher being cut because of poor fielding. Something doesn't quite add up here. If he was, legitimately, not one of the top 40 players in camp, fine. It's no more discrimination than cutting the fat kid that tried out. But if his arm is as good as the article describes, this sounds very fishy. From my understanding Varsity pitchers should be pitching in the 82-87 MPH range. His is 80 MPH, which means his arm isn't really anything special (except for it being something special for someone with his disability). Dr. Phillips High School's Varsity baseball program is in the top 10 of the nation, which means you're competing with the best. If all you have to bring to the table is a below average fastball and no ability to field then you have no chance whatsoever, disabled or not. No coach worth his salt is going to try and play around a pitcher who can't field. The other teams will easily discover this weakness and exploit it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:16 pm
$1: If the kid's arm isn't up to snuff or his grades are bad or he's a pain-in-the-ass that the coach doesn't want on the team, those are other matters.
Could be Coach is trying to be tactful and one of these is the reason, or he knows the kids parents are a pain in the ass to deal tith becaus to their son's diability. I'm with you there's something we aren't hearing.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:24 pm
It's funny that when someone doesn't not become something they want, and they have a physical issue, it is discrimination... I always wanted to become a model... I am 1.63. NOT happening, too short. Discrimination? Then, I wanted to become a stewardess, you know, cabin crew on a plane. Requirements back then: 1.65. Discrimination? NOW, we would all yell "HELL YES!!" 20 years ago: nahhhh, those were just uniform requirements...
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:30 pm
Brenda Brenda: It's funny that when someone doesn't not become something they want, and they have a physical issue, it is discrimination... I always wanted to become a model... I am 1.63. NOT happening, too short. Discrimination? Then, I wanted to become a stewardess, you know, cabin crew on a plane. Requirements back then: 1.65. Discrimination? NOW, we would all yell "HELL YES!!" 20 years ago: nahhhh, those were just uniform requirements... Oh grow up will ya. (get it?) For the record you have got all the right qualifications for a fight attendant. A sunny disposition and a perchance for floozy behavior with drunk passengers in cramped airplane bathrooms! 
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