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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:22 am
Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxoc products that come out of China.
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:23 am
GreenTiger GreenTiger: Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxoc products that come out of China. Exactly. The users are as guilty as the pushers. But I guess we can claim our addiction is an illness and we can't help it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:39 am
andyt andyt: GreenTiger GreenTiger: Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxoc products that come out of China. Exactly. The users are as guilty as the pushers. But I guess we can claim our addiction is an illness and we can't help it. 
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:44 pm
GreenTiger GreenTiger: Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxoc products that come out of China. Speak for yourself! 
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:38 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: GreenTiger GreenTiger: Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxic products that come out of China. Speak for yourself!  Have you every been in a Wal-Mart on The weekend when they sell Chinese made trash, er.. 'Inexpensive Merchandise'? The customer fight with each other to buy this toxic junk and by underage sweat shops. We are part of the problem not the solution. Our two countries should be leading by example, we don't.
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Ryanrenesis
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Posts: 14
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:19 pm
This is a surprise that you talk about "underage sweat shops" because usually Chinese culture understands the importance of education and children are expected to be at school and not work in factories.
Read the article carefully, it is the children who eat and play in the poisoned area adjacent to the factory, not the children working in the plants getting sick through some accident.
The Chinese look down on families who send their children who go to work and not concentrate on their job as students, not workers.
Please keep this in mind when you make comments stating Chinese "underage sweat shops". You're mixing up child labour with another country, not China. This is not what happens in China; my family regularly travels there for business trips. And if it does happen, it's done illegally.
PS. They do have normal sweat shops though yes.
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:24 pm
Ryanrenesis Ryanrenesis: This is a surprise that you talk about "underage sweat shops" because usually Chinese culture understands the importance of education and children are expected to be at school and not work in factories.
Read the article carefully, it is the children who eat and play in the poisoned area adjacent to the factory, not the children working in the plants getting sick through some accident.
The Chinese look down on families who send their children who go to work and not concentrate on their job as students, not workers.
Please keep this in mind when you make comments stating Chinese "underage sweat shops". You're mixing up child labour with another country, not China. This is not what happens in China; my family regularly travels there for business trips. And if it does happen, it's done illegally.
PS. They do have normal sweat shops though yes. Did you just pull all of that straight out of your ass? For shits and giggles, just google "China chi"...by then "China child labour" will pop up as a recommended search. Read any of the thousands of articles on child labour in China.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:29 pm
And here I was thinking the suspension they were talking about was from the end of a rope. 
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:05 pm
Ryanrenesis Ryanrenesis: This is a surprise that you talk about "underage sweat shops" because usually Chinese culture understands the importance of education and children are expected to be at school and not work in factories.
Read the article carefully, it is the children who eat and play in the poisoned area adjacent to the factory, not the children working in the plants getting sick through some accident.
The Chinese look down on families who send their children who go to work and not concentrate on their job as students, not workers.
Please keep this in mind when you make comments stating Chinese "underage sweat shops". You're mixing up child labour with another country, not China. This is not what happens in China; my family regularly travels there for business trips. And if it does happen, it's done illegally.
PS. They do have normal sweat shops though yes.  Do you write for Robin Williams? You're hilarious. China... the land of laws...... 
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:12 pm
The article said that the plant made batteries for their domestic auto market. Until there's further clarification that any of this factory's product is exported to Canada or the US I wouldn't jump too quickly into the kneejerk 'it's all our fault that the Chinese are dicks' routine.
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:22 pm
GreenTiger GreenTiger: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: GreenTiger GreenTiger: Sickening, but we have to keep in mind that we trip over ourselves to buy the toxic products that come out of China. Speak for yourself!  Have you every been in a Wal-Mart...? Fuck NO! 
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:52 pm
Thanos Thanos: The article said that the plant made batteries for their domestic auto market. Until there's further clarification that any of this factory's product is exported to Canada or the US I wouldn't jump too quickly into the kneejerk 'it's all our fault that the Chinese are dicks' routine. They're dicks because they're dicks. If we didn't pay them to be dicks they just wouldn't be as profitable at it. We play our part.
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Ryanrenesis
Newbie
Posts: 14
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:42 am
Lemmy Lemmy: Ryanrenesis Ryanrenesis: This is a surprise that you talk about "underage sweat shops" because usually Chinese culture understands the importance of education and children are expected to be at school and not work in factories.
Read the article carefully, it is the children who eat and play in the poisoned area adjacent to the factory, not the children working in the plants getting sick through some accident.
The Chinese look down on families who send their children who go to work and not concentrate on their job as students, not workers.
Please keep this in mind when you make comments stating Chinese "underage sweat shops". You're mixing up child labour with another country, not China. This is not what happens in China; my family regularly travels there for business trips. And if it does happen, it's done illegally.
PS. They do have normal sweat shops though yes. Did you just pull all of that straight out of your ass? For shits and giggles, just google "China chi"...by then "China child labour" will pop up as a recommended search. Read any of the thousands of articles on child labour in China. China bans working under the age of 16 (age 15 in Canada). Google recommended search completes your query because many people search that phrase, not because it is true or not. Did you think a recommended search popping up = your search query was true? Are you that misinformed? Don't try to talk smart when you have no clue what's going on. Many American articles exaggerating China "child labour" problem. Others like this article in the thread puts the two together by saying children got sick when they weren't even workers at the factory LOL. Some stories are even total American propaganda against China's massive manufacturing industry. JUST LOOK AT HOW THIS ARTICLE IS TITLED. LOL. Very misleading. Please, Lemmy, read up on more professional articles that are peer reviewed. Try ebsco search? Use your city's library please, not Google LOL. News about illegal child labour factories, by the time it reaches us, are so overplayed and exaggerated when you ACTUALLY visit the place and talk to the people and deal with business there. Lastly, once illegal child factories are found, investigations are carried out and factory closed down + managers/supervisors responsible immediately fired. It's not like the government WANTS these child labourers: they are much more inefficient and unproductive than adult workers. Besides, there is an abundance of Chinese adult workers, there's no need for child laborers in China. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
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rickc
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2965
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:36 am
Ryanrenesis Ryanrenesis: Lemmy Lemmy: Ryanrenesis Ryanrenesis: This is a surprise that you talk about "underage sweat shops" because usually Chinese culture understands the importance of education and children are expected to be at school and not work in factories.
Read the article carefully, it is the children who eat and play in the poisoned area adjacent to the factory, not the children working in the plants getting sick through some accident.
The Chinese look down on families who send their children who go to work and not concentrate on their job as students, not workers.
Please keep this in mind when you make comments stating Chinese "underage sweat shops". You're mixing up child labour with another country, not China. This is not what happens in China; my family regularly travels there for business trips. And if it does happen, it's done illegally.
PS. They do have normal sweat shops though yes. Did you just pull all of that straight out of your ass? For shits and giggles, just google "China chi"...by then "China child labour" will pop up as a recommended search. Read any of the thousands of articles on child labour in China. China bans working under the age of 16 (age 15 in Canada). Google recommended search completes your query because many people search that phrase, not because it is true or not. Did you think a recommended search popping up = your search query was true? Are you that misinformed? Don't try to talk smart when you have no clue what's going on. Many American articles exaggerating China "child labour" problem. Others like this article in the thread puts the two together by saying children got sick when they weren't even workers at the factory LOL. Some stories are even total American propaganda against China's massive manufacturing industry. JUST LOOK AT HOW THIS ARTICLE IS TITLED. LOL. Very misleading. Please, Lemmy, read up on more professional articles that are peer reviewed. Try ebsco search? Use your city's library please, not Google LOL. News about illegal child labour factories, by the time it reaches us, are so overplayed and exaggerated when you ACTUALLY visit the place and talk to the people and deal with business there. Lastly, once illegal child factories are found, investigations are carried out and factory closed down + managers/supervisors responsible immediately fired. It's not like the government WANTS these child labourers: they are much more inefficient and unproductive than adult workers. Besides, there is an abundance of Chinese adult workers, there's no need for child laborers in China. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Not to get in the middle of a pissing contest between you and Lemmy {I'll let you two duke it out}......My problem with your post is how you are slamming the American media for propaganda. Not that the American media isn't full of shit,on that we can agree.This article is from the CBC. I see no connection to the American or any other country's media what so ever.Correct me if I'm wrong.If I'm right,feel free to bash the CBC for slanted journalism,and propaganda.I'm all for giving credit where credit is due.
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