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Title: Notley won�t negotiate with B.C. on royalties in exchange for Trans Mountain support | 630 CHED
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: Alta_redneck
Date: 2016-12-08 08:45:06
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[Alta_redneck]

She looks like she's drunk most of the time.

[Canadian_Mind]

Fuck, really?

Personally, I don't mind if any province that has a pipeline going through it is collecting royalties on the product going through it. Got to be reasonable about it though.

[DrCaleb]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Fuck, really?

Personally, I don't mind if any province that has a pipeline going through it is collecting royalties on the product going through it. Got to be reasonable about it though.

Once a resource is taken out of the environment, and the royalties paid - they belong to the entity that paid the royalty. Why should Husky or BP pay the government of BC because their oil is flowing through the Kinder Morgan pipeline? Does Potash Corp have to pay Alberta or Manitoba when their product travels by rail through those provinces?

Indeed, let's be reasonable here.

[Thanos]

Tell Crispy to knock off the royalty talk or there'll be a 30% tariff slammed on O&G from northeastern BC that comes into Alberta via pipeline.

[andyt]

Pretty outdated stuff. She's switched to wanting to hit up the pipe owners for a cut.

[herbie]

$1:

Why should Husky or BP pay the government of BC because their oil is flowing through the Kinder Morgan pipeline?

Because they want to sell it. And because a little potash or ore spilled along the tracks isn't a problem. Potash makes the weeds grow. Oil kills everything.
Mainly because the people of BC aren't fucking obligated to take major risks so someone else can make a profit.
Both levels of gov't say damned road is open, so make the fucking deal. If KM and the oil companies can't - it's their fault.

[Zipperfish]

I'm not convinced the TMX pipeline will go, to be honest. Of all the pipelines, this one made the most sense. Enbridge Northern Gateway was a disaster. TMX twins an existing line to a city that already has oil tanker traffic.

Still folks here are upset. Who knows, might be Standing Rock Part 2.

[Alta_redneck]

I think we are paying this bitch close to $300K to develop our energy sector.

[herbie]

No, I told you the problem. The FUCKING BUILDERS not the people
We can't make any adjustments whatsoever. It has to go under the drinking water and through the rez cuz we said so and it's our way or the highway!
Just like the Enbridge fuckers, faking maps, redrawing them, lying to councils.. It has to be in Kitimat we won't even consider elsewhere.

Don't people realize that refusing to eat this kind of corporate bullshit is exactly the same as protesting them moving jobs offshore? YOU get to set the rules for business, not vice versa.

[Thanos]

The approvals process is years-long so I'm not sure where anyone's getting the idea that the builders can just ram the damn thing through anywhere they want for their own convenience. It doesn't work that way, even in the US where someone can make an eminent domain argument. When I was at Weyburn towards the end of the job found a stretch of brand-new pipe that had been already been installed and buried that due to an error in surveying had wandered off the right-of-way by all of about two meters. They didn't leave it where they put it. They spent the quarter-million it took to dig it up, re-drilled where necessary, re-trenched in the correct spot that the surveyors had originally fucked up, re-welded at least ten new joints, then re-installed and re-buried. The company that made the error ate the cost and at no time was the farmer whose land had been erroneously affect expect to "oh well, just put up with it" or suffer any of the cost himself. This would have been true for DAPL as well, so where were these protests when the initial public meetings and applications were being held and made at least two years ago? Aside from taking orders to halt construction from the White House for political reasons on this why the hell else is the USACOE suddenly stopping work on something at a crossing they themselves gave approval to a hell of a long time ago? Have fun with Trump in a month or so. When he's officially in, along with signing off on Keystone, he's probably going to tell the Army Corps to restart construction on DAPL and order the ND National Guard to knock the protesters out of the damn way ASAP.