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Title: New York's $6 billion plan for offshore wind shows that oil drilling really is on the way out
Category: Business
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-02-06 07:19:00
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

What an utter load of balderdash. New York State uses basically zero fuel oil to produce electricity so, claiming that their offshore wind farm is going to alter the need for the drilling of oil is nothing more than pipe dream likely being trotted out to justify the expense for the new wind farm.

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So given the methods of power production in the state could someone explain to me how this new 6 billion dollar wind farm is going to affect the drilling for oil? As the matter of fact the need for oil is likely going to increase right along with the population of the state which means even more drilling.

[bootlegga]

I'm all for more renewables, but I doubt it'll make a difference in the short term - our economy, like it or not, is hard-wired to use fossil fuels for all sorts of uses such as transportation, food production, and heating to name just a few.

Until such a time as ICE vehicles are no longer in use - think buses, trains, farm tractors and so on - nevermind personal automobiles, we'll need large amounts of fossil fuels. Some of these technologies already exist, but switching them over to pure electric is an expensive and therefore long term proposition.

Still, I guess every little bit helps.

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

So given the methods of power production in the state could someone explain to me how this new 6 billion dollar wind farm is going to affect the drilling for oil?

Exactly as the article says:

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But it's in direct conflict with President Donald Trump's plan to open up the Atlantic Coast to offshore oil drilling.

[BartSimpson]

Sweet! Lots of fashionable windmills to kill millions of migratory seabirds!

BECAUSE NEW YORK IS GOING TO SAVE THE PLANET!!!

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Sweet! Lots of fashionable windmills to kill millions of migratory seabirds!

BECAUSE NEW YORK IS GOING TO SAVE THE PLANET!!!

Fact check time again:

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Wind turbines kill fewer birds than do cats, cell towers

Wendy Koch | USA TODAY Updated 6:26 p.m. EDT Sep. 15, 2014

Wind turbines kill far fewer birds in North America than do cats or collisions with cell towers, says a study out Monday.

As wind power expands in the United States, critics often blame giant turbine blades for bird deaths. What's billed as the most comprehensive analysis ever of these fatalities says birds face far greater threats.

Wind turbines kill between 214,000 and 368,000 birds annually — a small fraction compared with the estimated 6.8 million fatalities from collisions with cell and radio towers and the 1.4 billion to 3.7 billion deaths from cats, according to the peer-reviewed study by two federal scientists and the environmental consulting firm West Inc.

"We estimate that on an annual basis, less than 0.1% ... of songbird and other small passerine species populations in North America perish from collisions with turbines," says lead author Wallace Erickson of Wyoming-based West.

The study based its estimate on data from 116 studies conducted in the U.S. and Canada, after adjusting for the fact that surveys don't capture all fatalities. Some carcasses are missed by monitors, disappear because of scavenging or decompose before they're counted. Nearly two thirds, or 63%, of reported fatalities were small birds of 156 different species....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bu ... /15683843/