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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:12 am
 


Title: New screening measures kick in for travellers on all flights bound for U.S.
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2017-10-26 11:06:31
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:12 am
 


Security Theater 3000 : Electric Boogaloo


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:01 am
 


The article is not very clear on intentions. Are they examining electronic devices more closely looking for explosive devices? Are they on a fishing expedition to look into the devices to see what websites, social media, contacts, phone numbers, etc., the traveler is using? The more likely scenario is that they will use scenario #1 to justify scenario #2. I refuse to take a laptop or personal phone out of the country anymore. I actually seen a video on youtube lately (I am to lazy to look for it now) where a reporter who had never left the country on his current trip, was being told by some feds in California that they could look into his personal phone because he was within 100 miles of the border. Supposedly the Border Patrol has these "super powers" to step on the Bill of Rights within 100 miles of the border. This guy played it cool though. He started live streaming the interaction online, and providing color commentary. The feds folded like a cheap suit, and let him walk away.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:37 am
 


rickc rickc:
The article is not very clear on intentions. Are they examining electronic devices more closely looking for explosive devices? Are they on a fishing expedition to look into the devices to see what websites, social media, contacts, phone numbers, etc., the traveler is using? The more likely scenario is that they will use scenario #1 to justify scenario #2. I refuse to take a laptop or personal phone out of the country anymore. I actually seen a video on youtube lately (I am to lazy to look for it now) where a reporter who had never left the country on his current trip, was being told by some feds in California that they could look into his personal phone because he was within 100 miles of the border. Supposedly the Border Patrol has these "super powers" to step on the Bill of Rights within 100 miles of the border. This guy played it cool though. He started live streaming the interaction online, and providing color commentary. The feds folded like a cheap suit, and let him walk away.



DM has a better write up for it..

ALL passengers flying to the US on five airlines will be questioned BEFORE they board: Air France, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific, Emirates and EgyptAir introduce new security grillings

Five global airlines will begin a variety of new enhanced security checks
The procedures range from filling in a form to questioning by staff
The new measures follow in the wake of the Trump administration's laptop ban
Fears have been raised Islamic State fighters could hide bombs in laptops


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4wgugZmjX


It can be anything from a printed questionnaire, interview, and being swabbed
for explosive residues.

Everyone gets to pay because to look closely at the blindingly obvious
is just sooo racist.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:29 am
 


martin14 martin14:
rickc rickc:
The article is not very clear on intentions. Are they examining electronic devices more closely looking for explosive devices? Are they on a fishing expedition to look into the devices to see what websites, social media, contacts, phone numbers, etc., the traveler is using? The more likely scenario is that they will use scenario #1 to justify scenario #2. I refuse to take a laptop or personal phone out of the country anymore. I actually seen a video on youtube lately (I am to lazy to look for it now) where a reporter who had never left the country on his current trip, was being told by some feds in California that they could look into his personal phone because he was within 100 miles of the border. Supposedly the Border Patrol has these "super powers" to step on the Bill of Rights within 100 miles of the border. This guy played it cool though. He started live streaming the interaction online, and providing color commentary. The feds folded like a cheap suit, and let him walk away.



DM has a better write up for it..

ALL passengers flying to the US on five airlines will be questioned BEFORE they board: Air France, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific, Emirates and EgyptAir introduce new security grillings

Five global airlines will begin a variety of new enhanced security checks
The procedures range from filling in a form to questioning by staff
The new measures follow in the wake of the Trump administration's laptop ban
Fears have been raised Islamic State fighters could hide bombs in laptops


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4wgugZmjX


It can be anything from a printed questionnaire, interview, and being swabbed
for explosive residues.

Everyone gets to pay because to look closely at the blindingly obvious
is just sooo racist.


If that's it, I don't see a change for Canadians, unless there is a laptop ban they aren't telling us about.

Every time I've flown in the last five years, they swabbed my entire family for explosives (including our 2 year old), scanned every electronic device we had and made us turn them all on. Heck, almost every time, they've even sent one of us through the body scanner. That's on top of taking your shoes and belt off and all the rest of it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:28 am
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
martin14 martin14:

Everyone gets to pay because to look closely at the blindingly obvious
is just sooo racist.


Every time I've flown in the last five years, they swabbed my entire family for explosives (including our 2 year old), scanned every electronic device we had and made us turn them all on. Heck, almost every time, they've even sent one of us through the body scanner. That's on top of taking your shoes and belt off and all the rest of it.


Exactly, security theater. Like rick posted, it's likely just a grab for people's personal data. Does anyone really think a regular Western family is going to suddenly become terrorists? So why waste a lot of time, effort and money verifying the obvious?

Do like the Israelis, have multiple levels of check, targeting the people likely to cause trouble. Let everyone else go about their business. Taking snapshots of everyone's Facebook or Grindr profile isn't going to stop airport attacks like we've seen in Europe. Having checkpoints at the airport entrance is the way to do that.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:23 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Security Theater 3000 : Electric Boogaloo


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:10 pm
 


rickc rickc:
The article is not very clear on intentions.
The media theater is distracting attention away from true intentions.

From the article:
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... and may have to go through interviews conducted by airline employees.
It is just 1 more sly data collection and verification scheme.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:37 pm
 


I wonder if anyone has ever studied just how much all this stuff costs, both in terms of the government budgets, and the millions of man-hours wasted by travelers. Was a time you could just walk on the plane. Now you gotta waste three hours first.


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