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shockedcanadian
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:27 pm
The most protectionist country in the West, has been for a long time, though quietly and covertly. The cat is out of the bag now.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:27 pm
It's not protectionism at play here with Trump. In fact, American dairy farmers who've become accustomed to exporting certain industrial dairy products to Canada at a cheaper price than the Canadian dairy board rates, are now complaining Canadian dairy prices are TOO LOW after the Ontario dairy board eliminated the price floor.
So nobody's really sure what Trump was talking about whe he called out Canada and he probably doesn't either. Just pandering to some over-producing Wisconsin constituents is all.
And what the article doesn't address is that in the US and other jurisdictions without price floors, the government just directly subsidizes the producers. In Canada, the customer buying the milk pays for the full cost of producing the milk. In the US, the price floats but among the many many agricultural subsidies, the federal government reimburses the farmer if the price of milk falls beliow an agreed-upon price floor. Federal departments also have standing mandates to purchase and stockpile dairy products to eliminate market surpluses. The expression "government cheese" refers to a federal welfare program that literally issued American made cheese to welfare recipients.
Last year, it was reported that the U.S. Feds had 95.2 million pounds of surplus cheese, and 28.7 million pounds of surplus butter sitting in cold storage. The largest stockpile since 1984.
At least in Canada only the people who WANT to buy milk pay for it. In the US, you pay for milk even if you hate milk and you're lactose intolerant, through your taxes.
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Posts: 11850
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:08 pm
Loblaws, SaveOn and Sobey's already know you WILL pay $6 for a jug of milk. So if they Yanks flood us with milk for half the price of the Dairy board they'll cut it to $5.95...
95.2 million pounds of surplus cheese? I love cheese, but it's all the kind you gotta bury on a pizza or burger so you can taste something
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:35 pm
herbie herbie: Loblaws, SaveOn and Sobey's already know you WILL pay $6 for a jug of milk. So if they Yanks flood us with milk for half the price of the Dairy board they'll cut it to $5.95...
95.2 million pounds of surplus cheese? I love cheese, but it's all the kind you gotta bury on a pizza or burger so you can taste something I remember visiting my wife's family in rural Ky back in the 80's or early 90's. The government was giving away , first to welfare recipients, than to food stamp users and finally just to anyone who wanted it what appeared to be five pound blocks of "American cheese." Awful stuff that almost turned me, a life long cheese lover into a cheesephobe. Horrible stuff, but they were just giving it away. Yuck!
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:20 pm
fifeboy fifeboy: "American cheese."......Yuck!
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:55 pm
When we were in Taiwan, most of the cheese we got was Tillamook. Nothing wrong with that. When we shopped at Carrefour it had a wider selection but smaller portions of European cheeses and some from New Zealand. Wasn't crazy about English cheddar.
In Somalia and Ethiopia we got what we could.. .hell even Velveeta was a treat.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:12 pm
I have good memories of Velvetta because mom used it for our grilled cheese sammiches when we were little. Can't touch it now though, or any of those Cheez Whiz things. Way too salty and leaves too unpleasant an after-taste.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:28 pm
We use to buy black diamond sharp spread that actually tasted like cheese, and before that a few years back, Ingersoll cheese spread. Both have disappeared, the Black Diamond just last fall. Can't find it in Coop, Safeway or Superstore. The only stuff I can find is MacLaren's Cheese spread, and it's almost twice what the Black Diamond cost. It's nice to have on toast(with little strawberry jam) or on celery. Cheez Whiz is too damn salty.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:30 pm
Used to visit Oregon lots back when Canadians were welcome. Tillamook made a few decent cheeses. Along with the usual excrement that's popular.
Black Diamond is still at Saveon I think. Just bought some extra old cheddar a couple months ago.
But wondering why a nearby deli sells sharp Italian provolone (icants, aurechhio or 'wedding cheese' a lot of ppl call it) for the same per 100g as no-name mild cheddar is at the Superstore deli...
Costco now our main cheese source, cheeses from all over priced decently.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:41 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: We use to buy black diamond sharp spread that actually tasted like cheese, and before that a few years back, Ingersoll cheese spread. Both have disappeared, the Black Diamond just last fall. Can't find it in Coop, Safeway or Superstore. The only stuff I can find is MacLaren's Cheese spread, and it's almost twice what the Black Diamond cost. It's nice to have on toast(with little strawberry jam) or on celery. Cheez Whiz is too damn salty. Now that you mention it, I haven't seen Black Diamond in a long time. All I see now for regular block cheese is store brand, Cracker Barrel, and sometimes Kraft. But, google says it still exists and they still have a website so I guess they're still around.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:07 pm
Strange, I have no problems finding Black Diamond cheese in Québec. 
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:13 pm
The cheese is easy to find in block and slices, it's the cheese spread that seems to have disappeared here. Couldn't find it in Prince Albert or Saskatoon. $1: Tillamook made a few decent cheeses. I liked the pepperjack.
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