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Title: Missing women deemed 'just hookers,' B.C. inquiry told
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2012-04-23 21:02:17
Canadian

[Macguyver]

What a bunch of cowards. The people pay these scum bags to do a job, it is too bad they feel that they are too good to get it done.

And then to blame some clerks and stenos for creating the problem? What a bunch of fucking pathetic pieces of shit, ya I'm talking to you VPS shitheads. You're getting paid to do a fucking job you should be doing it. Getting paid and not doing your job is fraud. Scumbags.

[BartSimpson]

I believe it was Milwaukee sometime in the 1990's that a predatory rapist played on the biases of police. He'd abduct his victims from their apartments and would leave behind bundles of cash along with drugs in order to discredit his victims and make the police less interested in searching for them.

My point is that it is sad that police bias can be so prevalent that there's criminals who know how to play it.

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I believe it was Milwaukee sometime in the 1990's that a predatory rapist played on the biases of police. He'd abduct his victims from their apartments and would leave behind bundles of cash along with drugs in order to discredit his victims and make the police less interested in searching for them.

Very smart of the criminal. Very stupid of the police.

[andyt]

Obviously if these had been white middle class women the police would have gone into overdrive. But most white middle class women don't go out to a farm in the middle of the night on the promise of drugs. They don't usually just up sticks and go to a different city. The relatives are outraged at the police that they didn't look after these women properly, but what role did the relatives play in these women going on the streets in the first place? And how much effort did the relatives expend trying to get these women off the streets in the second place? Always more fun to blame the police than look at your own actions I guess.

The relatives and native industry has tried to force the inquiry to become an examination of the whole native problem - racism, drug use, residential schools, etc, which means the inquiry probably won't produce much of value. And yes, there's CYA going on by the police. Management didn't want to hear it, even when Kim Rossmo rang the alarm bells.

For the last decade or more, there have been periodic reports of men going missing as well. These are mostly middle class men, but there's no task force for them either, you hear about it in the news for a bit, and then attention just fades away. Where are they all disappearing to?

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

Obviously if these had been white middle class women the police would have gone into overdrive. But most white middle class women don't go out to a farm in the middle of the night on the promise of drugs. They don't usually just up sticks and go to a different city. The relatives are outraged at the police that they didn't look after these women properly, but what role did the relatives play in these women going on the streets in the first place? And how much effort did the relatives expend trying to get these women off the streets in the second place? Always more fun to blame the police than look at your own actions I guess.

Blaming the victim, huh.
When people go missing, regardless of the reason, it is the job of the police to go look for them. Not to dismiss them because they were "only hookers". Police is not supposed to have an opinion on the way others make a living. It is not up to the police to judge.

$1:

For the last decade or more, there have been periodic reports of men going missing as well. These are mostly middle class men, but there's no task force for them either, you hear about it in the news for a bit, and then attention just fades away. Where are they all disappearing to?

So you are saying that since there is no "task force", their cases are dismissed? Just like that?

I am pretty sure they are looking for them.

[andyt]

No, I'm not blaming the victim. But hookers certainly disappear (and return) much more often than do people with stable lives. So just because one doesn't make a sporadic call home, doesn't mean she's been murdered. If the police treated every case like that as murder, they'd be overwhelmed. As I said, at some point they did have good evidence that something was going on here - Kim Rossmo tried to tell them so, and he was demoted for it. At some point the police also seemed to have a pretty good idea that Pickton was the guy - and they still didn't act in a timely fashion.

There's a reason the jury only convicted him of second degree murder. Not because the prosecution didn't make it's case, but because the jury was sure there were other people involved. I think that's true too. His brother, the Hell's Angels, and according to reports, judges, lawyers and cops would all have big parties at the farm. I think that some of them would have a party where a girl was killed, and Willie's job was more to dispose of the bodies. And that would account for why the police moved so slowly.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I believe it was Milwaukee sometime in the 1990's that a predatory rapist played on the biases of police. He'd abduct his victims from their apartments and would leave behind bundles of cash along with drugs in order to discredit his victims and make the police less interested in searching for them.

My point is that it is sad that police bias can be so prevalent that there's criminals who know how to play it.

Think youre talking about Jeffery Dahmer. His victims were all males, mostly gay. The cops actually carried one of his escaped victims back in to Dahmer's apartment, despite the fact that he was screaming for help, naked and bleeding from his anus.