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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:00 pm
I wish to extend my sympathies to Carol DeDelley and her family.
Your country has failed you, and sadly this situation will not be eased in the future.
We should all be deeply embarrased and angry over this, and it should not be permitted to continue.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:31 am
I'm all for escorted walks for him. In a circle around a rubber room.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:30 am
Benn Benn: I'm all for escorted walks for him. In a circle around a rubber room. Or a dark alley.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:33 am
It depends on who is escorting him...
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Regina 
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:46 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:47 am
And things like this just show how fucked our legal system is in places.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:34 am
The only escorted walk that this individual should get to to to guillotine.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:59 am
Let him. Just keep him within the grounds of the Mental Health Clinic.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:06 am
SprCForr SprCForr: Let him. Just keep him within the grounds of the Mental Health Clinic. Exactly. Since this is presumably a Forensic Institution, there should be fences around it same as a prison, so he doesn't need an escort. If he's not in a Forensic Institution he should be. And, if he's ever released, it should be on lifetime parole, where somebody is making sure he's taking his meds and meeting with shrinks - if he doesn't he should be locked up again. We should get rid of the not guilty by reason of insanity verdict, and make it guilty with extenuating circumstances. Anybody that commits murder should get a life sentence (ie supervision), crazy or not. There is no cure for psychosis, only meds that control it.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:35 am
SprCForr SprCForr: Let him. Just keep him within the grounds of the Mental Health Clinic. Nah...too hard to get a clear shot through all the trees.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:52 am
andyt andyt: SprCForr SprCForr: Let him. Just keep him within the grounds of the Mental Health Clinic. Exactly. Since this is presumably a Forensic Institution, there should be fences around it same as a prison, so he doesn't need an escort. If he's not in a Forensic Institution he should be. And, if he's ever released, it should be on lifetime parole, where somebody is making sure he's taking his meds and meeting with shrinks - if he doesn't he should be locked up again. We should get rid of the not guilty by reason of insanity verdict, and make it guilty with extenuating circumstances. Anybody that commits murder should get a life sentence (ie supervision), crazy or not. There is no cure for psychosis, only meds that control it. That's the problem, as unfortunate as it is. That the meds make him "well" now and he functions normally. However making sure someone stays on their meds while free is not that easy. Its happened many times something gets missed or the person just takes off without notification. They feel well for a year or so then start thinking they don't need the meds, or run off and can't get them filled, then someone else ends up dead. The greater public safety is at issue here.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:00 am
Benn Benn: That's the problem, as unfortunate as it is. That the meds make him "well" now and he functions normally. However making sure someone stays on their meds while free is not that easy. Its happened many times something gets missed or the person just takes off without notification. They feel well for a year or so then start thinking they don't need the meds, or run off and can't get them filled, then someone else ends up dead. The greater public safety is at issue here. We need not forget Vince already did all this before going on his spree.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:55 am
martin14 martin14: Benn Benn: That's the problem, as unfortunate as it is. That the meds make him "well" now and he functions normally. However making sure someone stays on their meds while free is not that easy. Its happened many times something gets missed or the person just takes off without notification. They feel well for a year or so then start thinking they don't need the meds, or run off and can't get them filled, then someone else ends up dead. The greater public safety is at issue here. We need not forget Vince already did all this before going on his spree. Which is why he should never be free to roam in society again. But it's also no excuse to treat him worse than a factory farm animal.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:51 pm
andyt andyt: SprCForr SprCForr: Let him. Just keep him within the grounds of the Mental Health Clinic. Exactly. Since this is presumably a Forensic Institution, there should be fences around it same as a prison, so he doesn't need an escort. If he's not in a Forensic Institution he should be. And, if he's ever released, it should be on lifetime parole, where somebody is making sure he's taking his meds and meeting with shrinks - if he doesn't he should be locked up again. We should get rid of the not guilty by reason of insanity verdict, and make it guilty with extenuating circumstances. Anybody that commits murder should get a life sentence (ie supervision), crazy or not. There is no cure for psychosis, only meds that control it. There is a cure. There is either a guillotine or better yet a Hilfax Tribbet, after treatment is is administered the recidivism rate drops to zero. In France the Guillotine is referred to as the "National Razor".
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