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Title: Liberals' stand on Kyoto Accord will dog Ignatieff
Category: Political
Posted By: stemmer
Date: 2009-10-16 06:04:03
Canadian

[leewgrant]

As we get close to Copenhagen Ignatieff is going to have to answer these questions if he intends to make GHGs a major issue. The Liberals did nothing to implement Kyoto so they can hardly just finger the Tories.

I would like to know - from both of the parties that can form a government - where they stand on what they expect to come of this: a revised, Kyoto, Son of Kyoto, something completely new.

Prediction: unless China and India belly up to the bar in some way Copenhagen is likely to be a failure. That's not bad news - it allows individual countries to develop their own programs.

[N_Fiddledog]

The agreement they appear to be ready to sign onto in Copenhagen appears to have some stuff in it which appears to move towards world governance. Sounds like conspiracy talk I know, and it is, but there does appear to be something behind it.

Here's a bit from the agreement it's alleged they'll be signing in Copenhagen. They are talking about some sort of government (I believe the UN will be in charge), and how it will be arranged.

$1:

38. The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization of which will include the following:

World Government (heading added)
a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will operate as such, as appropriate.

To Redistribute Wealth (heading added)
b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to address loss and damage from climate change impacts [read: the "climate debt" Monckton refers to], including insurance, rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest incentives relating to REDD actions.

With Enforcement Authority (heading added)
c) The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for information exchange [read; enforcement].

I got that from here, but it sources back to InfoWars which the last time I looked was a site touting stuff like New World Order, The Biderbergs, and Birther Conspiracy.

Still...

[ASLplease]

Iggy's view on the Liberal's kyoto record is "You didn't get it done"

[Guy_Fawkes]

Heh if the UN is in charge you know it is bound to fail.

[Lemmy]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

Heh if the UN is in charge you know it is bound to fail.

Concur. I doubt the UN could organize a successful piss-up in a distillery.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

Heh if the UN is in charge you know it is bound to fail.

Concur. I doubt the UN could organize a successful piss-up in a distillery.

Or an orgy at a brothel with a fistful of fifties!