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Title: Legal expert says racist flyers targeting Premier and Sikh community tough to prosecute | 1310News
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Freakinoldguy
Date: 2014-04-28 10:21:30
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

Here's a longer article on the story.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybr ... 10529.html

I don't know about Ontario but in BC the Sikh community for the most part has steadfastly refused to integrate into Canadian Society in a way that other races and cultures have in just a generation or two.

So the question here is, when does what some people perceive as the truth turn into racism?

[martin14]

They don't call it "Bramladesh" for nothing...

[Freakinoldguy]

martin14 martin14:

They don't call it "Bramladesh" for nothing...

Strange, because until this article I never even knew that Brampton was becoming a Sikh enclave. I guess we were to busy listening to all the Surrey jokes being bandied about to pay attention to the rest of Canada.

[OnTheIce]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

martin14 martin14:

They don't call it "Bramladesh" for nothing...

Strange, because until this article I never even knew that Brampton was becoming a Sikh enclave. I guess we were to busy listening to all the Surrey jokes being bandied about to pay attention to the rest of Canada.

The transformation of Brampton is quite stunning. All of my wife's family has moved from Brampton(they are Newfoundlanders) in recent years. The culture sure has changed.

[xerxes]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Here's a longer article on the story.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybr ... 10529.html

I don't know about Ontario but in BC the Sikh community for the most part has steadfastly refused to integrate into Canadian Society in a way that other races and cultures have in just a generation or two.

So the question here is, when does what some people perceive as the truth turn into racism?

That's only half true. The first and second generation kids are perfectly bilingual despite keeping their parents religion and culture.

But I know exactly what this looks like. There people at my workplace who, despite being in Canada longer than I've existed, can still barely speak a word of English.

[Gunnair]

xerxes xerxes:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Here's a longer article on the story.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybr ... 10529.html

I don't know about Ontario but in BC the Sikh community for the most part has steadfastly refused to integrate into Canadian Society in a way that other races and cultures have in just a generation or two.

So the question here is, when does what some people perceive as the truth turn into racism?

That's only half true. The first and second generation kids are perfectly bilingual despite keeping their parents religion and culture.

But I know exactly what this looks like. There people at my workplace who, despite being in Canada longer than I've existed, can still barely speak a word of English.

Yep. I know a few Indians here and they've integrated quite fine. As have Chinese and other recent immigrants. Some don't, however. What makes them any worse than some other anti-social groups that were born here?

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[Zipperfish]

Gunnair Gunnair:

That's only half true. The first and second generation kids are perfectly bilingual despite keeping their parents religion and culture.

But I know exactly what this looks like. There people at my workplace who, despite being in Canada longer than I've existed, can still barely speak a word of English.

Yep. I know a few Indians here and they've integrated quite fine. As have Chinese and other recent immigrants. Some don't, however. What makes them any worse than some other anti-social groups that were born here?[/quote]

Same--one of the most civic-minded and proud Canadians I know is a Sikh. He volunteers a lot of time to bringing Sikh culture and western culture together.

That said, there was a time when Surrey ahd to send in the police to break up brawls at the temples, and Kalistan terrorists were active here. Thankfully, their influence appears to have waned over the last 20 years.

[ShepherdsDog]

India being more settled also helps keep Canada's Indian population calm....that and no Johal - Dosanjh feuds

[xerxes]

Definitely. No more Khalistani nationalists is a big improvement.

[Jabberwalker]

A friend of ours is a Sikh policeman. He does not choose to wear the headgear. I doubt that he carries a kerpan but I know that he is a practising Sikh. In every obvious way he and his family have integrated into Canada. He is still Sikh just as I am still Presbyterian.

[andyt]

xerxes xerxes:

Definitely. No more Khalistani nationalists is a big improvement.

Actually they're still here. BC has a stronger presence of the Khalistan movement than Punjab does itself. That's one reason it's quiet here - no support back home. But Ripudaman Singh Malik and his ilk haven't gone anywhere. When we had a scandal just a few years back with premier Gordo proudly riding in a Visaki parade that had floats honoring the "martyrs" you know the movement is still alive and mainstream pols either don't have a clue or don't care.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Here's a longer article on the story.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybr ... 10529.html

I don't know about Ontario but in BC the Sikh community for the most part has steadfastly refused to integrate into Canadian Society in a way that other races and cultures have in just a generation or two.

So the question here is, when does what some people perceive as the truth turn into racism?

What does integrate mean? Not wear turbans? There are plenty Sikhs who have integrated very well. Speak good English, participate in society, etc. Unfortunately, as with the Chinese. we flooded the place with so many at once that they developed their own enclaves where they don't have to integrate at all.

I think saying they've for the most part refused to integrate is way overstating it tho.

[ShepherdsDog]

All those Asian faces in one place makes Andy uncomfortable. It's their fault he has to work for minimum wage