[Newsbot]

Title: Iran is the main state sponsor of terror, US report finds
Category: World
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2016-06-03 10:22:10

[N_Fiddledog]

Now let's apply Obama logic to that.

"You know what those guys need? Some nuclear weapons and intercontinental missile technology."

Now season with Progressive media-speak.

"Only the Saudis are a problem. Cause Bush.

Oh yeah, and 'psst' Jews."

[Thanos]

Yeah, and the best friends of the US on the west side of the lake support/finance/arm the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS. In case no one ever noticed the San Bernardino shooters didn't go to Iran to get radicalized. Neither did the 9/11 Nineteen. They went to the heart of Sunni Islam to learn that. This has the stench of a massive bait-and-switch for the sole benefit of Riyadh (and Likud too) written all over it.

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Now let's apply Obama logic to that.

"You know what those guys need? Some nuclear weapons and intercontinental missile technology."

Now season with Progressive media-speak.

"Only the Saudis are a problem. Cause Bush.

Oh yeah, and 'psst' Jews."

Obama also gave them US$150 billion.

He said he would stand with the Muslims and he is doing so.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, and the best friends of the US on the west side of the lake support/finance/arm the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS. In case no one ever noticed the San Bernardino shooters didn't go to Iran to get radicalized. Neither did the 9/11 Nineteen. They went to the heart of Sunni Islam to learn that. This has the stench of a massive bait-and-switch for the sole benefit of Riyadh (and Likud too) written all over it.

No. Here's what you refuse to get. It's not just one or the other. It's both under the umbrella of one enemy ideology. All the report is telling you is there's a way you can add the pieces on the board where the Iranians are winning the terrorist long game.

You're not going to make a nuclear Iran less dangerous by saying, "Yeah, but look over there. Wahabis."

We need to strap you to a chair and have a serious deprogrammer go at you for a week or so like they used to do to the Moonie kids.

Seriously...you'll be a lot happier when it's done.

[Thanos]

If you buy into this crap then you're just guaranteeing that another generation of American military personnel and their families will be sent to serve and die for non-American interests. It's not about Iran being bad guys. Of course they are. It's that the Saudis are genuinely that much worse and they've managed to arrange the entire American establishment to react like a Pavlovian dog for their benefit.

Has to stop someday, being led around on a leash by those bastards. Why not start the severing of all ties with them today, before more blue-eyed kids end up dying in a worthless desert somewhere on the behalf of an autocracy that is pure evil.

They can't survive without American support? Good. Like Kirk said in The Undiscovered Country, "let them die".

[BartSimpson]

Arguing the difference between Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam is like arguing the difference between Stalinist communism and Maoist communism.

[Thanos]

I never said there was a major difference between them when it comes to sponsoring terrorists, other than that the Saudis are doing as much (more likely more) than the Iranians are. The only solution is to leave them all behind. FDR's devils bargain to secure the pre-WW2 oil supplies is no longer needed, not when between the oilsands, conventional plays, fracking, and off-shore North America can easily achieve long-term oil self-sustainability and when the green tech is starting to take over more and more electrical generation needs.

Think of being the military family that loses someone defending the Arabs in the time when oil becomes less and less important. We aren't doing this kind of endless overseas interventions to secure obsolete coal supplies, so why do it to secure rapidly redundant oil reserves, especially reserves that are in the hands of a culture that's as vile as the ones the Nazis and Communists created? There's got to be a special part of hell where the neo-con politicians and pundit rats deserve to go when they send others off to die for "stability" in that utterly loathsome part of the world.

Leave them to their own devices, both tribes of them. Let them kill each other off for their demonic moon-god all they want. It isn't our problem anymore.

[N_Fiddledog]

If one wanted to trace the roots of terrorism he could start in a lot of places.

You could go to Egypt and the ideological sparks like Al Zawahiri. You could go back farther than that to the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Bana then follow those through to their influence on Bin Laden and that bunch, sparking the terrorist that became Abu Bakr al-Bagdadi running ISIS.

But so what? (Personally I'd start with Mohammed. )

Ultimately though, what you really want to avoid is this.



And for that you want to deal with Iran. Currently when I say deal with them I mean don't help them.

But also, yeah, if you want to shut down the Saudi money and influence as well, good for you. Just don't buy into this 'only the Saudis matter' bullshit you get from the Progressive mothership. It's only purpose at this time is to excuse bending over for the Ayatollahs.

[Thanos]

If you were really serious about a nuclear weapon scenario you'd want to take them away from our other "best friends" in Pakistan, who are far more likely than the Iranians to give one to terrorists who will blow it off in one of our cities. Funny thing that, worrying about the Iranians who don't even have a bomb yet, but turn a willful blind eye to Pakistan who are also notorious best-buddies with both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Now why would that be, another hands-off status quo for more American "friends" whose hands are dripping with blood?

[N_Fiddledog]

Pakistan is slime too. I'm not happy with North Korea either. For that matter, Turkey sucks.

Hey, I know what the solution is. I heard it at the Daily Kos...or was it Think Progress?

Anyway...all we have to do is free up that 100 billion dollars or whatever it is for Iran so they can get that ICM program going full bore and finance the Iranian flavored terrorists better. That can't hurt anybody but the Saudis, right?

It's not like Hamas and Hezbollah don't have roots to the birth of modern Islamic terrorism or anything.

Oh wait...

[GreenTiger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Arguing the difference between Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam is like arguing the difference between Stalinist communism and Maoist communism.

True but with the Iranians killing Saudi and the Saudi killing Iranians we can sit back with some popcorn and watch the the Islamic kooks kill each other.

The two aren't exactly friends and Saudi Arabia has given the IAF permission to fly over their territory to attack Iran and I'm sure the Islamic Iranian government is less than thrilled.

[Sunnyways]

How are they the main sponsor of terror? That is certainly false in Europe or the Americas. How many madrassas do they fund? The Yanks need to get out more, to places like Africa, and see what their friends the Saudis are up to.

[N_Fiddledog]

It would be tricky to calculate in a place like Yemen, wouldn't it?

You might have Iran backed Shia blowing stuff up old style, but then the Saudis are zooming in with jets.

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[N_Fiddledog]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

How are they the main sponsor of terror? That is certainly false in Europe or the Americas. How many madrassas do they fund? The Yanks need to get out more, to places like Africa, and see what their friends the Saudis are up to.

I think you're missing the term "State" sponsor.

Try this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_ ... _terrorism

Here's another clue:

http://www.thetower.org/3379-european-b ... -concerns/

Here's the report referenced in the article, I think:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/258021.pdf