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Title: Increased Arctic sea ice volume after anomalously low melting in 2013
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-07-22 12:44:10
Canadian

[N_Fiddledog]

Here's a little more on that:


"Arctic ice EMBIGGENS, returns to 1980s levels of cap cover


The Arctic ice has indeed cheered up a bit, particularly in thickness of the key areas north of Greenland and Canada, which had been getting nearly as thin as the stuff north of Siberia - which regularly breaks up enough to let ships through, though they generally have to be escorted by icebreakers. Thus actual ice volumes are looking especially good.

Arctic ice has also stabilised in area, which is a marked change from much of last decade when the northern sea ice extent over time seemed to be in free fall. (That said the drop was much less than normal seasonal variation, as can be seen in these graphs from Cryosphere Today.)

Meanwhile of course, the southern sea ice around Antarctica has continued to spread out and cover bigger areas all the time, a circumstance which has frankly stumped climate scientists as their models cannot account for it. Antarctic ice hit a new all-time record last year, in fact.

This growth, combined with the recent bounce-back in the Arctic, means that the world's total area of sea ice today is little different to that seen thirty years ago and more, when people first started monitoring it."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/21 ... _in_1980s/

And the one in Nature only went up to 2014. This year the extent is currently as high as last year.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php

Could change by the Summer Minimum in September though.

[BartSimpson]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ccg ... -1.3162900

Worst ice conditions in 20 years force change of plans to icebreaker research program

And what was the research program that got cancelled?

Yep, there were a bunch of folks out to make more hay for global warming/climate change.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-glad ... -heavy-ice

Seems the climate isn't cooperating with the warmunist political agenda!

[sandorski]

Ahh yes, the Annual Look at all the Ice!!! thread. Looking forward to the epic 2016 version.

[herbie]

$1:

Ahh yes, the Annual Look at all the Ice!!! thread

Along with the perennial 'the room I'm in is fine so the house can't be on fire' commenters......

[PluggyRug]

...followed by the devout warmunist disciples.

[N_Fiddledog]

Well the Arctic ice is important, because other than "oh look there's a storm in New York", or re-manipulated data pretending it now supports the hypotheses, the Arctic ice is the last hope of real world support for the idea of possible catastrophic, human caused, global warming.

Once the Arctic ice comes back and levels out, they've got nothing. That's it for the warmist faithful.

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Well the Arctic ice is important, because other than "oh look there's a storm in New York", or re-manipulated data pretending it now supports the hypotheses, the Arctic ice is the last hope of real world support for the idea of possible catastrophic, human caused, global warming.

Once the Arctic ice comes back and levels out, they've got nothing. That's it for the warmist faithful.

That's interesting. So increasing temperatures mean nothing? Accelerated Glacier melting means nothing? Numerous other phenomena means nothing? It's just the Arctic sea ice?

I somehow suspect you'll contradict yourself soon, likely within a month.

[N_Fiddledog]

sandorski sandorski:

$1:

It's just the Arctic sea ice?

Pretty much, yeah.

I considered arguing each of your points. In fact I did it. Gonna edit now.

Cause, I don't want to spend the rest of the year arguing about NOAA manipulated temps erasing the climate pause, or what happens to the Greenland glacier when the Arctic cools, or disrupted gravity from melted ice that might be caused by undersea volcanoes, or drowning polar bears that are somehow increasing in population, or imaginary heat killed bumblebees.

[herbie]

Warmunists?

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Cause, I don't want to spend the rest of the year arguing about NOAA manipulated temps erasing the climate pause, or what happens to the Greenland glacier when the Arctic cools, or disrupted gravity from melted ice that might be caused by undersea volcanoes, or drowning polar bears that are somehow increasing in population, or imaginary heat killed bumblebees.

Please do! We can use the laughs.