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Title: Hundreds of students walk out of classes after five youth suicides in Woodstock, Ont.
Category: Health
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-06-07 07:40:14
Canadian

[uwish]

you mean it isn't just an indian issue? surprise surprise...

[shockedcanadian]

Students are claiming they don't have resources in the city to address this issue. Looking at the city budget for 2015, a full 27% of the entire budget was spent on it's leading operating expense, starving the community of available resources for other needs...unacceptable.

[OnTheIce]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Students any they don't have resources in the city to address this issue. Looking at the city budget for 2015, a full 27% of the entire budget was spent on it's leading operating expense, starving the community of available resources for other needs...unacceptable.

They have resources.

Crisis lines shouldn't be the focus. They are a momentary solution to a very deep problem.

Parents should be taught how to identify if their child is having mental health issues and get medical professionals involved.

[andyt]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Looking at the city budget for 2015, a full 27% of the entire budget was spent on it's leading operating expense, starving the community of available resources for other needs...unacceptable.

So just like Attawapiskat?

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Parents should be taught how to identify if their child is having mental health issues and get medical professionals involved.

Absolutely. But being proactive would be even better. Get the kids in groups to talk about their problems and solutions. And not just the kids identified as having problems, but all the kids. Often you hear how well the kid seemed to be doing before they killed themselves, there were not outward signs.

Suicide doesn't just come from some internal defect, but from outside pressures. Eg, a kid that's being bullied, is that his/her mental health issue alone, or a societal/community issue?

[andyt]

$1:

What needs to happen next to deal with Woodstock, Ont., suicide crisis?
"We've seen clusters of suicides in communities for as long as I've been in this field," said Manion, who has been a clinical psychologist for more than 30 years.

"It could be any community," he said. "Anybody could be at risk at any moment in time."

Canadian communities need an "array of services" to help prevent suicides, Manion said, and it's essential to involve youth in "co-creating" solutions.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/w ... -1.3619525

[shockedcanadian]

Where will they get the funds when 27% is used on one operating expense?

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Absolutely. But being proactive would be even better. Get the kids in groups to talk about their problems and solutions. And not just the kids identified as having problems, but all the kids. Often you hear how well the kid seemed to be doing before they killed themselves, there were not outward signs.

Perhaps the signs just aren't known or understood by parents.

andyt andyt:

Suicide doesn't just come from some internal defect, but from outside pressures. Eg, a kid that's being bullied, is that his/her mental health issue alone, or a societal/community issue?

School's still don't do enough to curb this type of behavior. It's unfortunate that something like this may have to happen before schools take notice.

[OnTheIce]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Where will they get the funds when 27% is used on one operating expense?

And how is that any different than other Municipalities?

Health is primarily a Provincial responsibility.

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

Absolutely. But being proactive would be even better. Get the kids in groups to talk about their problems and solutions. And not just the kids identified as having problems, but all the kids. Often you hear how well the kid seemed to be doing before they killed themselves, there were not outward signs.

Perhaps the signs just aren't known or understood by parents.

No doubt. But they would also sometimes not be identified even by professionals - they often get it wrong. If you put it all on the parents to identify the "problem kid" it just makes the kid the problem, if you see what I mean. It's the same in family therapy, where the parents bring in the kid to have him/her fixed, when most often the kid's behaviour is just a signal something is wrong in the family. The family needs fixing, not just the "problem kid."

What I was talking about was creating an environment where kids feel OK with bringing out their problems. Not just at home, but quite likely in a group of kids. Not a group of "kids with problems" but just all kids able to express themselves and be guided in how to do it in a supportive way. Then if serious problems show up, the kid(s) might be passed on to something more intensive. IMO, group therapy is still often more effective for teens than one on one. Unless the kid is truly psychotic or such.