[Newsbot]

Title: How Bill C-21 turned from banning handguns to hunting guns
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2022-12-05 07:14:59
Canadian

[Scape]

Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.

[DrCaleb]

I don't think they are trying to fail. I think every party that operates from partisan perspectives will eventually fail. It's inevitable.

[Zipperfish]

yeah, looks like a solution in search of a problem to me.

[bootlegga]

Scape Scape:

Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.

It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.

[Thanos]

This issue won't be enough to beat the Liberals. But it will be enough to combine with other issues like inflation to probably cause another Liberal minority. And it will also allow PeePee to start crowing "we got 'em now!" even after he scores no more seats in his first election as leader than Scheer or O'Toole got.

[JaredMilne]

bootlegga bootlegga:

It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.

And not just farmers. Don't most hunters these days eat whatever they kill, or at least sell the meat so it doesn't go to waste? Some people use their long guns to literally put food on the table. You don't even have to be a rural person to do it-some idiot here in St. Albert caused a coyote infestation in his neighbourhood when he left some deer carcasses he butchered out in the open.

I was working for the Town of Morinville back in 2009, and I was attending the AUMA annual meeting in Calgary when Stephen Harper nixed the original long gun registry. He did that when he only had a minority-IIRC, he got support from 8 NDPers and 12 Liberals to pass the bill through Parliament. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those Opposition MPs had a lot of angry constituents banging on the doors of their riding offices about this issue. Party discipline is usually so strict in Canada that they wouldn't have broken ranks with the rest of their caucuses unless something was really, really important.

[Thanos]

The rural NDP MPs are usually nowhere near as obtuse on this issue as their fellow travellers in the urban ridings are.

[DrCaleb]

Untraceable 3D-printed 'ghost guns' on the rise in Canada

Untraceable ghost guns a growing threat in Canada




This is one of those times I think the CBC has a bias. Not in what it says, but the fact it totally ignores the important part of a story.

It's impossible to either ban the distribution of patterns for ghost guns, or the materials used; without also banning all the legitimate uses of 3d printers. Guns are a symptom, not a cause.

[Scape]

CBC has moral panic?

*clutches pearls*

Shocked I tell you shocked!!

[Strutz]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Scape Scape:

Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.

It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.

I'm quite sure that many even in the GTA and Lower Mainland do understand and are also rational and get it. Not all urban people are blind to rural life.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's impossible to either ban the distribution of patterns for ghost guns, or the materials used; without also banning all the legitimate uses of 3d printers. Guns are a symptom, not a cause.

I'm still wowed by 3D technology and what it can create. It's very unfortunate, though not shocking I guess, that it is used for negative purposes. Knives of all types and other objects that can be used as weapons are just as deadly, albeit in a different way, as any type of gun or rifle. It's the level of hate (or whatever the fuck it is) that drives someone to actually take the life of another human being and I doubt at this point there is any way to change that.