[Newsbot]

Title: Homeless cast a shadow on Olympic glow
Category: Sports
Posted By: ManifestDestiny
Date: 2010-02-05 12:01:59
Canadian

[KorbenDeck]

Work camps, we need cheap made in Canada clothing.

[andyt]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Work camps, we need cheap made in Canada clothing.

So we can take another step of being just like China?

[KorbenDeck]

andyt andyt:

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Work camps, we need cheap made in Canada clothing.

So we can take another step of being just like China?

We give them food, clothing, shelter, minimum wage, proper medical evaluation and access to drug rehabilitation programs. They choose not to take it we take them back to their city and no longer give them a welfare check. We stepped up tried to offer them help they turned it down, we no longer have to help them.

Just giving them a welfare check and letting them live on their own doesn't seem to be working.

[andyt]

I get the point you're trying to make, and agree in part. Gotta find a better way than just handing out money to people sitting around.

You're aware tho, that the number of young, healthy, able to work people on welfare is very very small, right? There's the single parents, who at minimum wage are better of with welfare because child care is so high. (Actually in BC I believe they cut them off anyway once the kids are in school.) There's all the damaged people out there - all the FASD kids we're creating, all the emotionally fried by years of abuse as children, etc. And on we go. Most people who can work, do work, cause welfare ain't nothing to write home about.

What will you do with the people that choose not to take your generous offer - either cause they can't (ie perform the work) or cause they won't. Shoot them on sight as the scavenge around the city trying to survive?

It's a nice fantasy, but the reality would probably not work out so well. I don't know if there's a jurisdiction on the world that's figured this one out - even the Scandinavian countries seem to have people sitting around on (generous) welfare while they're still importing workers.

Can anybody point to somewhere that's been successful? I believe Clinton's approach had some success, in part because things were booming under him. (I worked there during that time, and there were help wanted signs everywhere). The US still has a huge underclass that's stuck tho, and I would bet Shrub made things worse again.

Also, why pick the clothing industry? Our govt has invested heavily in the car industry, why not make people work in it for minimum wage? Or in your industry, say?

[romanP]

Nowhere can ever be successful at completely eliminating homeless, unfortunately. It's the second law of thermodynamics at play again. You could round up all of the homeless and bury them in mass graves if that's something you think is a good idea (I don't), and you'd still end up with more homeless people. The most we can do is try to help them suffer less.

[Freakinoldguy]

romanP romanP:

Nowhere can ever be successful at completely eliminating homeless, unfortunately. It's the second law of thermodynamics at play again. You could round up all of the homeless and bury them in mass graves if that's something you think is a good idea (I don't), and you'd still end up with more homeless people. The most we can do is try to help them suffer less.

Strange I thought they'd sent them all to Port Hardy. I guess some of them must have found their way home.

[Public_Domain]

[ShepherdsDog]

Hire them to haul snow to Cypress.