[Newsbot]

Title: Girl, 7, shot dead by police in Detroit
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: wildrosegirl
Date: 2010-05-16 20:08:27

[uwish]

my god, someone needs to redo their weapons qual. Very sad.

[Heavy_Metal]

poor officer, guy is going to have to go through a lot to get over this

[putz]

uwish uwish:

my god, someone needs to redo their weapons qual. Very sad.

Must of been nice to be right there when it happened....

$1:

when an officer's gun went off during a struggle with a woman

What does this have to do with qualification?

$1:

he lead officer encountered a 46-year-old woman immediately inside the front room of the house and "some level of physical contact" ensued, during which the officer's gun went off

Yep sure sounds like he went in with guns blazing to me

People like you piss me right the fuck off. Blame the police right away.... maybe read more then just the title of the article next time.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Wow, harbouring a fugitive and assaulting a police officer. Good call you dumb bitch and now it's the police' fault your child is dead?

As for your comment uwish, I find it odd you'd say that considering your stance on guns. Let's see. They force entered a home that a potentially armed suspect was hidng in. What did you think the cops were gonna have drawn, pen and pad to ask questions?

THis is a tragedy no doubt, but not one I'm willing to lay the fault for at the officer's feet.

[andyt]

I just hope the officer isn't white, 'cause then you know the way this is going to spin.

[andyt]

But, I do wonder. If they were using a swat team anyway, why not just surround the house and tell numbnuts to come out? It might take a little more time and effort, but it does reduce the chance of something like this happening.

[Monkeyman]

Tragic.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

But, I do wonder. If they were using a swat team anyway, why not just surround the house and tell numbnuts to come out? It might take a little more time and effort, but it does reduce the chance of something like this happening.

"Dynamic entry" is a bit of a fad right now. At some point I expect the courts to dial this in and require the cops to knock on a door or to at least execute some common sense before they act.

The worst example of LEO's being obsessed with heroics was at Waco, Texas in 1993 where the objective of the raid was (purportedly) to apprehend David Koresh.

So, after 18 months of detailed surveillance in which Koresh was observed jogging at 8am ever morning except Sundays the ATF had two choices:

1. They could arrest Koresh when he went jogging alone.

2. They could invite the media to a staged event where they were going to go in balls out and prove some illusory point by stomping on a relatively unknown and heretofore peaceful group.

They choce option #2. And that seems to be where law enforcement is these days. Why do peacefully and reasonably what can be done with excessive amounts of force?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Dynamic entry is more than a fad. Here's the way the scenario used to play out all to often in the US AND Canada.

"Come out, we have the place surrounded." BANG! one shot cop.

Or even better, if there's others in the house, they have instant hostages.
The whole purpose of dynamic entry is to prevent a suspect or known criminal from planning a course of action.

Kinda like the military tactic, give the enemy too much to think about and not enough time to think about it or react in a cohesive way.

[digerdick]

Its just collateral damage that the cops consider part of the job...........The cop who did it wont lose any sleep over it.....

[Regina]

diggerdick diggerdick:

Its just collateral damage that the cops consider part of the job...........The cop who did it wont lose any sleep over it.....

[digerdick]

NO but I sure known how to get your panties in a knot

[Regina]

diggerdick diggerdick:

NO but I sure known how to get your panties in a knot

Keep trying.........

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Dynamic entry is more than a fad. Here's the way the scenario used to play out all to often in the US AND Canada.

"Come out, we have the place surrounded." BANG! one shot cop.

Or even better, if there's others in the house, they have instant hostages.
The whole purpose of dynamic entry is to prevent a suspect or known criminal from planning a course of action.

Kinda like the military tactic, give the enemy too much to think about and not enough time to think about it or react in a cohesive way.

The cop doesn't have to get shot because he doesn't have to stand in the line of fire to deliver the message. The phone usually works just as well.

I did consider the hostage thing, and maybe it's a call by the cops on whether the guy will take his own family/friends hostage or not. As Bart points out, in Waco it seems the feds just wanted to be Rambos - I guess Janet Reno had something to prove.