[Newsbot]

Title: French media ordered by electoral commission not to publish content of hacked Macron emails
Category: World
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2017-05-06 08:29:59

[N_Fiddledog]

But...but...you told us Macron was so wonderful Media. Surely there's nothing that would contradict that.

Oh wait...

[N_Fiddledog]

Oh, and here's the link that will get you to the first article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 21111.html

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France's electoral commission has ordered media not to publish contents of Emmanuel Macron's leaked campaign emails to avoid influencing the election.

It warned news outlets in France that journalists could face criminal charges for publishing or republishing the material, under laws that came into effect at midnight forbidding any commentary liable to affect the presidential race.

There were fears the hack could swing Sunday’s final vote, where Mr Macron was expected to comfortably beat candidate Marine Le Pen...

[N_Fiddledog]

To be fair there may also be this:

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But the French won’t be hearing much about it from local news outlets in any event. They have a rather strange law which forbids the media from covering the election after midnight on Friday and discussion of the race anywhere is discouraged while people are voting. Of course, this being the 21st century and all, people are no doubt getting all the news related to this from international outlets on their phones and other devices.

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/06/r ... tion-hack/

[xerxes]

Good. It's obvious Putin has cast an early vote in the French election with this hack and the less coverage the better.

[martin14]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

But...but...

Too little, and way too late.

It would take a week or two to get some juicy bits out to the public,
like Fillion and his embezzlements.

So it's nothing, Macron will win easily.



The caveat is here:

Le Pen the father got 20% in 2002 or so.
Marine will get 35-40%

Have to wait another 5 years, maybe 10.
Maybe it's up to Marion.

[BeaverFever]

xerxes xerxes:

Good. It's obvious Putin has cast an early vote in the French election with this hack and the less coverage the better.

Yep the world's learned from the US election debacle. I'm surprised Putin and the far-right thought the same trick would work again so soon afterwards.

[N_Fiddledog]

What exactly is this "far-right" thing, anyway?

I see it all the time. Has anybody ever defined it? Something the European leftist mainstream media doesn't like and the local prog-pods have latched onto is the closest I can get. Although I'm guessing it may have something to do with respect for country, and priority of national identity. If so where do I sign up?

[N_Fiddledog]

On further thought I think if one prefers the idea of integration by legal immigrants over multicultural colonization of one's country he's "far-right". Is that it?

[xerxes]

In Le Pens case it involves holocaust denial for starters.

[BeaverFever]

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Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right.

Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism.

Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right.[1][2] Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration.[3][4]

The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism,[5] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views,[6] which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state[7] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[8]

[N_Fiddledog]

xerxes xerxes:

In Le Pens case it involves holocaust denial for starters.

No it doesn't. Check again. Show us where Marine Le Pen denied the holocaust.

Did you notice her name is emboldened there?

Here, I'll do it again but this time I'll enlarge it so we can be sure you see it.

Marine Le Pen

Did you see it that time? OK now show us where specifically "Marine Le Pen" denied the holocaust.

She didn't.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

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Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right.

Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism.

Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right.[1][2] Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration.[3][4]

The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism,[5] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views,[6] which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state[7] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[8]

Gobbledy-gook and bafflegab.

It says the thing they're pretending they have a defintion for is often this, but sometimes that. "No wait...we mean it could be this, but it may be that."

It's a collection of maybes arranged so those looking for a name to call can grab the convenient possibility while ignoring the others and pretend that means they have a clue what the slur they're pulling out the Progressive butthole actually means. They obviously don't.

Nice try though, Wikipedia.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

It says the thing they're pretending they have a defintion for is often this, but sometimes that.

So? Those are just different forms of it. Example: A bird is often a seagull, but sometimes a crow. No wait, it's also a robin. Or it could be an eagle. Does that mean there's no such thing as "birds"?


I know black-and-white thinkers such as yourself need to define the world by absolutes ("always" or "never", "good" or "evil", "everything" or "nothing", etc.) and you clearly struggle with nuance and gradient concepts like "sometimes" or "maybe". But you should recognize that a deficiency for you to improve upon rather than evidence of vast evil socialist conspiracies.

[N_Fiddledog]

Oh I see. You want to define by example of parts. Then you examine your parts to decide what it actually is right?

Kind of like when the blind men defined the elephant.



Should we let those guys loose on a Penguin, an ostrich and a canary to learn what a bird is?

I'm guessing even an evolved thinker like yourself, who's too cool for rational thought might see the problem there.

If you need a little help though, try this one.

https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/20 ... nd-men.jpg