[Newsbot]

Title: Former cop pleads guilty to child porn charge
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Curtman
Date: 2012-05-12 06:55:11
Canadian

[Curtman]

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Hall remains free on bail but does face a mandatory sentence of at least 45 days behind bars under recent amendments to the Criminal Code.

45 days? 18 months for growing plants, and a few weeks for victimizing children?

The tough on crime Reformacons have bizarre priorities.

[martin14]

Curtman Curtman:

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Hall remains free on bail but does face a mandatory sentence of at least 45 days behind bars under recent amendments to the Criminal Code.

45 days? 18 months for growing plants, and a few weeks for victimizing children?

The tough on crime Reformacons have bizarre priorities.

Stupid Lib hack..


It's a mandatory minimum.


Without it, no doubt the judge would let him walk away.

At least with these changes he'll do something.

[Curtman]

In related news...

Ex-cop pleads guilty to sex crimes

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A former Winnipeg police officer has admitted to sexually assaulting more than 10 young women whom he persuaded to model for his off-duty photography business.

Richard Dow, 57, pleaded guilty to 11 counts of sexual assault Tuesday, involving women in their late teens or early twenties.
...
As a result of the plea, 13 charges were dropped including five counts of sexual exploitation and eight counts of sexual assault.

Our boys in blue certainly have an image problem on their hands.

[jeff744]

Curtman Curtman:

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Hall remains free on bail but does face a mandatory sentence of at least 45 days behind bars under recent amendments to the Criminal Code.

45 days? 18 months for growing plants, and a few weeks for victimizing children?

The tough on crime Reformacons have bizarre priorities.

Probably a result of it just being for possession, not production.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

martin14 martin14:

Curtman Curtman:

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Hall remains free on bail but does face a mandatory sentence of at least 45 days behind bars under recent amendments to the Criminal Code.

45 days? 18 months for growing plants, and a few weeks for victimizing children?

The tough on crime Reformacons have bizarre priorities.

Stupid Lib hack..


It's a mandatory minimum.


Without it, no doubt the judge would let him walk away.

At least with these changes he'll do something.

Oh yeah, great changes. A month and a half for victimizing children sexually but a year and a half for growing a bit of weed. That is some fucked up priority right there.
Kind'a bullshittish considering we were told if we were against the gov't spying on our internet activities, we were for pedophiles and child pornographers.

Maybe we as voters and taxpayers should tell the friggin' gov't that if THEY don't believe in 10 year minimum prison terms for pedophiles and child pornographers, then the gov't is obviously out to protect them and not the children.

[martin14]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

martin14 martin14:

At least with these changes he'll do something.

Oh yeah, great changes. A month and a half for victimizing children sexually but a year and a half for growing a bit of weed. That is some fucked up priority right there.
Kind'a bullshittish considering we were told if we were against the gov't spying on our internet activities, we were for pedophiles and child pornographers.

Maybe we as voters and taxpayers should tell the friggin' gov't that if THEY don't believe in 10 year minimum prison terms for pedophiles and child pornographers, then the gov't is obviously out to protect them and not the children.

So you agree with me that the changes weren't enough, and they should be stronger ?

I only say these mandatory sentences are at least something,
better than we had before under previous pussy crime loving Liberal governments.


We have all seen for years pedos walking away with nothing.

[Curtman]

martin14 martin14:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

martin14 martin14:

At least with these changes he'll do something.

Oh yeah, great changes. A month and a half for victimizing children sexually but a year and a half for growing a bit of weed. That is some fucked up priority right there.
Kind'a bullshittish considering we were told if we were against the gov't spying on our internet activities, we were for pedophiles and child pornographers.

Maybe we as voters and taxpayers should tell the friggin' gov't that if THEY don't believe in 10 year minimum prison terms for pedophiles and child pornographers, then the gov't is obviously out to protect them and not the children.

So you agree with me that the changes weren't enough, and they should be stronger ?

I only say these mandatory sentences are at least something,
better than we had before under previous pussy crime loving Liberal governments.

We have all seen for years pedos walking away with nothing.

More B.S.

In 2006 before the Harperites began their reign of terror....

Mandatory Minimum Sentences

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B. Sexual Offences Involving Children
Two years for living off the avails of prostitution of someone under 18 (2005); five years if violence, intimidation or coercion is used (1997)
Six months for soliciting the sexual services of someone under 18 (2005)
Six months if a parent, guardian or householder procures or permits prohibited sexual activity of a child under 14; 45 days if the child is 14 to 18 (2005)
45 days if a person in a position of trust or authority sexually exploits a child under 14; 14 days if the child is 14 to 18 (2005)
One year (conviction by indictment) or 90 days (summary conviction) for producing, distributing, importing or exporting child pornography (2005)
45 days (conviction by indictment) or 14 days (summary conviction) for possessing or accessing child pornography, and sexually touching a person under 14 (2005)

Liberal governments used MMS more often than the Harperites have. And they were much more successful at it. It took the Reformacons 6 years to get this measly ammendment through. And they were their own roadblock through years of proroguing and early election calls. The Liberals voted for this bill every time it was introduced until it was rolled into C-10 which lumped in a bunch of nonsense bills.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

martin14 martin14:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

martin14 martin14:

At least with these changes he'll do something.

Oh yeah, great changes. A month and a half for victimizing children sexually but a year and a half for growing a bit of weed. That is some fucked up priority right there.
Kind'a bullshittish considering we were told if we were against the gov't spying on our internet activities, we were for pedophiles and child pornographers.

Maybe we as voters and taxpayers should tell the friggin' gov't that if THEY don't believe in 10 year minimum prison terms for pedophiles and child pornographers, then the gov't is obviously out to protect them and not the children.

So you agree with me that the changes weren't enough, and they should be stronger ?

Hell yeah!

martin14 martin14:

I only say these mandatory sentences are at least something,
better than we had before under previous pussy crime loving Liberal governments.

Now, to be fair, they don't love crime, they just love the criminals. Ya know, a warm hug and a few kind words and voila, instant productive member of society

martin14 martin14:

We have all seen for years pedos walking away with nothing.

Sadly, considering the despicableness(is that a word?) of these types of crimes, 45 days is nothing.
Actually, I thinik I'm gonna fire off a missive to Vic Toews(or whoever the idiot was) and ask him if he really thinks it's worth the cost to spy on everyone's internet activities on the off-chance they can hand down a "tough on crime" 45 day sentence.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

Curtman Curtman:

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Hall remains free on bail but does face a mandatory sentence of at least 45 days behind bars under recent amendments to the Criminal Code.

45 days? 18 months for growing plants, and a few weeks for victimizing children?

The tough on crime Reformacons have bizarre priorities.

Stupid Lib hack..


It's a mandatory minimum.

And the reason the Reformacons have made the madatory min so much less for child porn vs growing 6 pot plants is? I mean a CPC hack should be able to explain that to us/

[jeff744]

andyt andyt:

And the reason the Reformacons have made the madatory min so much less for child porn vs growing 6 pot plants is? I mean a CPC hack should be able to explain that to us/

What is the penalty for possessing pot? You are forgetting, the guy possessed, not produced, which would have netted him years. The difference is that he didn't directly harm anyone, what he did was encourage it because he likely paid for it.

[andyt]

The production of child porn harms children. You really think possesing something in which children were harmed is over 10 times more benign than growing 6 plants? (45/540)

[jeff744]

andyt andyt:

The production of child porn harms children. You really think possesing something in which children were harmed is over 10 times more benign than growing 6 plants? (45/540)

Not really, but I am pointing out why the penalty is likely less.

[andyt]

And Curt and I are pointing out why that's nuts.

Here's the law for production:

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One year (conviction by indictment) or 90 days (summary conviction) for producing, distributing, importing or exporting child pornography (2005)

So it's still less, and if you get a summary conviction it's a joke.

Also this:

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45 days if a person in a position of trust or authority sexually exploits a child under 14; 14 days if the child is 14 to 18 (2005)

and

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Six months if a parent, guardian or householder procures or permits prohibited sexual activity of a child under 14; 45 days if the child is 14 to 18 (2005)

[Brenda]

It IS nuts. Although it is comparing apples and oranges, 45 days for possession of child porn, keeping the demand alive, is despicable, ridiculous and beyond appalling.

Also, the fact that this man is (or was) an authority figure should add to the sentence. Yes, I hold cops more accountable for the crimes they commit than non-cops.