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Title: Florida sex-offender who had relations with 16-year-old granted refugee status in Canada | National Post
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Goober911
Date: 2014-05-16 18:55:53
Canadian

[andyt]

WTF?

[Freakinoldguy]

Agreed. This is ridiculous and is more likely fueled by the sex of the offender than by the actual severity of the sentence. Had this been a man with a 16 year old girl my guess is that the IRB wouldn't have granted asylum no matter what the sentence.

So if this ruling is based on what they claim, all any pedophile in America who gets a harsh sentence has to do is make it to the border and it's an automatic get out of jail free card for them.

[andyt]

Didn't realize she got a 30 year sentence. That is ridiculous, and I can see the IRB's point. but yes, had this been a man, likely he would have been refused.

Do the Americans have any sense of proportion at all? I guess with Bart here as an example, not really.

[herbie]

Good God oldguy how old are you? Shit it was 45 years ago and I remember 16. Every one of us would've fucked the crack of dawn if we could. To think that if we'd nailed the girl's gym teacher or the french teacher SHE was taking advantage of us somehow is ludicrous. To sentence her to 30 years is beyond all sensibility to the point of retarded!
And yes a girl of 16 was different. They seemed a little more sensible and less hormone driven. That was why we were all whacking off to Playboy, the social studies substitute and even the miniskirted chick on the Totem Mercury tv ads...

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

Good God oldguy how old are you? Shit it was 45 years ago and I remember 16. Every one of us would've fucked the crack of dawn if we could. To think that if we'd nailed the girl's gym teacher or the french teacher SHE was taking advantage of us somehow is ludicrous. To sentence her to 30 years is beyond all sensibility to the point of retarded!
And yes a girl of 16 was different. They seemed a little more sensible and less hormone driven. That was why we were all whacking off to Playboy, the social studies substitute and even the miniskirted chick on the Totem Mercury tv ads...

I could give a shit about the sentence or the act of copulation by some 16 year old guy having your wet dream fulfilled. The problem I have is that the IRB made a decision based on sex and what they perceived to be to harsh a sentence when compared to Canadian law. So, let me pose the question. Would they have allowed a male who had been sentenced for sleeping with some hormonally active 16 year old girl who was "asking for it" into the country?

Because, if the answer is yes then they've set the precedence for every person on the planet who is convicted of a crime that doesn't meet the Canadian Judicial Sentencing guidelines to become a refugee and once you open that floodgate there's no turning back. But, if the answer is no then they've proven that despite 50 years of fighting for equality between the sexes there are still benefits of being one sex over the other which sets another unwanted precedence.

So, despite the fact that this is a wet dream for every 16 year old guy and the sentence she got was utterly ludicrous the fact remains that the IRB shouldn't be granting asylum based on sex, race, personal bias and length of sentence. I'm also old enough to remember a time when it was next to impossible to get refugee status unless there was a direct correlation between the claimant being returned to their country of origin and a shortened life expectancy after that return.

Oh and for the record I'm more than forty five years away from my 16th birthday so that's not the issue.

[sandorski]

Quit calling sex with a 16 year old Pedophilia. It is not.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I'm also old enough to remember a time when it was next to impossible to get refugee status unless there was a direct correlation between the claimant being returned to their country of origin and a shortened life expectancy after that return.

Geez, you must be really old, because I don't remember that time. A political prisoner could always claim refugee status, it wasn't just fear for your life but persecution that counted. Thing is the only thing she's being persecuted for is underage sex (don't think pedophile quite fits for a 16 yr old).

[herbie]

Because she was a teacher, it falls under the position of authority and IS a crime in Canada if the victim is under 18. The ruling was based solely on the ridiculously heavy sentence.
And so far there has not been any similar rulings where the sexes were reversed.
Same IRB rules that apply when there's a death penalty or 1ife for adultery or asylum or jail sentence for opposing the regime.
Too bad IRB doesn't rule for Canadian citizens. Marc Emery would never have been extradited.

[Winnipegger]

According to the article, she was not HIS teacher. Therefore was not in a position of authority over him. According to Canadian law, since he was over 16 and consenting, this is not Pedophilia. There is the issue of "position of authority", but again she was not his teacher, so not in a "position of authority". So it isn't Pedophilia. What she did is not a crime under Canadian law. It is just cause to fire her. She should be fired, and banned from working as a teacher ever again. But 30 years in prison!?!?!

Try remembering what you were like at 16. When I was that age, I definitely was attracted to young female teachers. There was one teacher, her first job out of university, in her early 20s and HOT! Every boy had fantasizes about her, and she smiled when boys stared. She didn't do anything, in fact I think she was married, but I would have done her. She wasn't my English teacher, but she always smiled when I stared as I passed her to go to English class in the next classroom.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

Quit calling sex with a 16 year old Pedophilia. It is not.

Agreed.

If the boy had murdered someone then Florida would try him as an adult, right? Then why isn't he an adult in this circumstance?

All I ask is for the law to be consistent. Either you're an adult or you're not. This situational ethics crap is crap.

And 30 years is totally repressive. Good on Canada for acknowledging injustice.

[stratos]

Will this also protect her from the bail bondsman whom she jumped a $150,000 bail bonds on? Seems she was convicted on 6 counts receiving only 5yrs per count and not the whole 15yrs per count.

[BeaverFever]

Some clear mitigating factors here:

1) Had this occurred in Canada, it wouldn't have been a crime, given that 16 is already the age of consent in this scenario

2) The kid was already borderline of age in Florida....presumably Florida considers a person to not be older than "16" until they reach their 17th birthday, instead of when they are "16 years plus one day".

3) 30 years is harsh for this sceario

[andyt]

On reflection tho, I think she should have been denied. The US has a justice system that is about equal in fairness to ours, especially since she's not black. Under their system she was guilty and sentenced accordingly. She's not being persecuted by any stretch of the imagination, just got an unusually harsh sentence. I say ship her back. As FOG says, we can't take in everybody that doesn't like the sentence they got.

[Unsound]

I'm gonna have to go with the ship her back side as well. The sentence is absurdly harsh, but as others have said, we can't be responsible for every miscarriage of justice in the world.