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Posts: 11240
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:59 am
WHAT !!!!
This is the most idiotic thing I've heard of. This makes less ense than the "honour" killings.
He parents need a high dose of humanity, How in hell can you blame an 8 year old girl for being raped. They parents should be doing everything they can think of and then some to help their daughter, but this is what they do?
The boys should be taught the hard way what a Hilifax Tribbit is and the young girl desirves better parents than what she has. I can't even think of the right word of contempt for them.
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ASLplease
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:09 am
the young girl should say 'good fucking riddens'
her parents have their heads up their asses, she deserves better.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:13 am
I'm jumping to conclusions but any bets what religion they practice? $1: The boys and the victim were resettled Liberian refugees. ... “Most of those boys (probably) grew up in very broken family situations,” Keita said, explaining that many parents found it hard to maintain control over their children’s upbringing as rebel attacks constantly forced them to relocate.
Ranks right up there with Iran imprisoning womnen, prison guards rape them and then murder them because they committed adultery.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:49 am
Poor little girl... I am all teared up... How the hell can you, as a parent, disown your most precious gift?
I hope this is seen as neglect, or abuse, or whatever they want to call it, as long as the parents are taken to court and made VERY fucking clear this is NOT the way you treat your children. As for the girl, I hope she will survive this mentally...
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:53 am
ridenrain ridenrain: I'm jumping to conclusions but any bets what religion they practice? $1: The boys and the victim were resettled Liberian refugees. ... “Most of those boys (probably) grew up in very broken family situations,” Keita said, explaining that many parents found it hard to maintain control over their children’s upbringing as rebel attacks constantly forced them to relocate.
Ranks right up there with Iran imprisoning womnen, prison guards rape them and then murder them because they committed adultery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Liberia"The Muslim population is mainly found among the Mandingo and Vai ethnic groups." And from the article, they are Mandingo.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:09 pm
Of course this was in the US but I wonder how the addoption of Sharia law in Ontario would have affected this sort of thing? These are all criminal charges but I wonder if the crack ould be opened up enough to include such matters.
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Posts: 11240
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:26 pm
I hate to categorize groups but
unfortunately Sharia based bwas and customs as they reguad female in general is quite barbaric.
If there is any proof needed that Sharia Laws should NOT superceed the Charter of Rights or the Bill of Rights this is it.
Fortunaly there are criminal charges that can be brought against the parents. I don't know what will be worse for her to accept the fact that she was raped or that her own family felt that she "dishonour them" and abandoned her.
Now I'm beginning to understand why the Crusades were fought.
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:34 pm
$1: Now I'm beginning to understand why the Crusades were fought.
The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and were launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia.
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:59 pm
Brenda Brenda: Poor little girl... I am all teared up... How the hell can you, as a parent, disown your most precious gift?... Because of the parents attitudes towards it the child was also taken away. If anything a 9yr old is going to want to be with her family no matter how fucked up their beliefs are. So its double trauma for her since she cant go back to them. Pretty fucked up situation.
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:59 pm
GreenTiger GreenTiger: I hate to categorize groups but unfortunately Sharia based bwas and customs as they reguad female in general is quite barbaric.
If there is any proof needed that Sharia Laws should NOT superceed the Charter of Rights or the Bill of Rights this is it.
Fortunaly there are criminal charges that can be brought against the parents. I don't know what will be worse for her to accept the fact that she was raped or that her own family felt that she "dishonour them" and abandoned her.
Now I'm beginning to understand why the Crusades were fought. That didn't stop the capital of Orthodox Christianity falling to Muslim rule.... 20% of Liberians are Muslims though, they could be Christians, they could just be incredibly ignorant and stupid people [parents]. ps...ops Edit....they're muslim. nvm
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:41 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: GreenTiger GreenTiger: I hate to categorize groups but unfortunately Sharia based bwas and customs as they reguad female in general is quite barbaric.
If there is any proof needed that Sharia Laws should NOT superceed the Charter of Rights or the Bill of Rights this is it.
Fortunaly there are criminal charges that can be brought against the parents. I don't know what will be worse for her to accept the fact that she was raped or that her own family felt that she "dishonour them" and abandoned her.
Now I'm beginning to understand why the Crusades were fought. That didn't stop the capital of Orthodox Christianity falling to Muslim rule.... 20% of Liberians are Muslims though, they could be Christians, they could just be incredibly ignorant and stupid people [parents]. ps...ops Edit....they're muslim. nvm True, they did fall, but now we can understand the motivation, the Crusaders didn't ride down there and defend Christiandom because they had nothing betterto do. They did it because they saw that there was a threat.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:26 pm
$1: 'Shame' felt by young assault victim's family decried (CNN) -- The president of Liberia spoke Friday on the sexual assault of an 8-year-old Liberian refugee in Phoenix, Arizona, decrying reports that the parents believe their family has been shamed by the girl.
"This is not a question of shame on the family. It is the question of an assault on a young child. That cannot be tolerated," said President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, speaking by telephone.
Police have charged four boys, ages 9 to 14, in the case. The boys also are Liberian refugees.
"We are so saddened," Sirleaf said. "We are deeply distressed at this behavior on the part of our young Liberians and very saddened at this 8-year-old child who has been so victimized."
Phoenix police say the boys used an offer of chewing gum to lure the girl to a storage shed at an apartment complex on July 16. There, they allege, the four boys restrained and sexually assaulted her.
The 14-year-old was charged as an adult Thursday and will face two counts of sexual assault and one count of kidnapping. The other three boys were charged in juvenile court with sexual assault, and two of them also were charged with kidnapping, Thomas said.
Speaking from Liberia, Sirleaf said the family's reaction to the incident is wrong. "They should help that child who has been traumatized," she said.
She suggested the family members "need serious counseling because, clearly, they are doing something that is no longer acceptable in our society here."
She also called upon Phoenix authorities to counsel the alleged attackers. "They have to pay the penalty, but we also want to make sure that they are counseled ... that they will have an opportunity to change and become useful citizens, not only in the United States but when they return home."
Detectives said the girl was placed in the custody of Phoenix child protective services after the attack because of her parents' attitude toward her.
"The parents felt that they had been shamed or embarrassed by their child," Phoenix police Sgt. Andy Hill said Thursday.
Tony Weedor -- co-founder of the CenterPoint International Foundation, which aids Liberians in the United States and provides aid for those still in Liberia -- agreed with Hill. He said rape was not against the law in Liberia until 2006.
"The family [believes they] have been shamed by her ... and they're more concerned about that than the crime," he said.
Sirleaf said the family should not be concerned about that.
"Let me say very clearly that rape is a problem in Liberia also. There is a strong law regarding that," she said.
Milton Barnes, Liberia's ambassador to the United States, said he also will step in to help the victim.
"Our primary concern is this child," he said. "We intend to work with the authorities and the family to make sure she is safe, protected and there is certain sensitivity exercised towards her."
Edwin Sele, the deputy ambassador, also responded to the incident.
"Having heard the story myself, I'm outraged," he said. "In Liberia, the family and law enforcement officers would be embracing the victim. To hear that the family is not doing that, that should be an isolated case."
Hill said Thursday that protective services officers would "determine what's going to happen [to the girl] in the days ahead." http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/24/lib ... index.htmlThank you Liberia for addressing this.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:41 pm
$1: "This is not a question of shame on the family. It is the question of an assault on a young child. That cannot be tolerated," said President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, speaking by telephone.
Thank you.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:30 pm
Brenda Brenda: Poor little girl... I am all teared up... How the hell can you, as a parent, disown your most precious gift?
I hope this is seen as neglect, or abuse, or whatever they want to call it, as long as the parents are taken to court and made VERY fucking clear this is NOT the way you treat your children. As for the girl, I hope she will survive this mentally... They should be charged with child abandonment. Plain and simple.
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