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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:45 pm
 


Title: Ex-soldier gets four years in jail for killing comrade
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Posted By: Guy_Fawkes
Date: 2011-11-18 11:41:43
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:45 pm
 


A very sad state of affairs. I dont believe for one second that he
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fired his weapon in self-defence as he reacted to what he thought was a threat inside a tent at the military base


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:50 pm
 


Without knowing all the facts I'm reluctant to pass judgment. PTSD can affect some folks much more seriously than others. The fact that he had his weapon loaded against orders is what weighs against him most heavily here, but then if the orders came from Ottawa (which they likely did) then it's probable that no one on the ground in Afg cared about them. Pinheads in Washington are fond of issuing orders that are in conflict with the situation on the other side of the planet so the potential for such to come out of Ottawa exists, as well.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:35 pm
 


Everyone cared about unloading in KAF, if this had happened outside the wire or maybe even in a FOB I may see it but not in KAF. From what I can remember at the time, the initial story was that they were playing quickdraw. I had only heard of the stranger in the shadows defense until coming back to Canada.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:53 pm
 


Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Everyone cared about unloading in KAF, if this had happened outside the wire or maybe even in a FOB I may see it but not in KAF. From what I can remember at the time, the initial story was that they were playing quickdraw. I had only heard of the stranger in the shadows defense until coming back to Canada.


I'll defer to what you say on this. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:08 pm
 


Army rumour chain (which can be surprisingly true) is that they were playing quick draw and had the mags in so that they could see who could get it out and pull the trigger first. So at some point, whether he loaded the mag, cocked the weapon, then fired, or cocked it, loaded the mag, fired, re-cocked for another round, then fired, he eventually put a round in the chamber, and shot a guy.

Dumb game to play, and he should have known his weapons state...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:10 pm
 


That was the initial story...
The defense attorney coming up with this self defense-story might have made it even worse...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:15 pm
 


One life taken needlessly, a family mourning for silliness and the guilty guy's life is ruined.

Pretty crappy all round really.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:46 am
 


Reservists fail...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:19 pm
 


Smacle Smacle:
Reservists fail...


Idiots like yourself are also the failers the CF does not need.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:24 pm
 


Smacle Smacle:
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The Reservist that was killed still had a family. Show some compassion.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:55 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
Smacle Smacle:
Reservists fail...


Idiots like yourself are also the failers the CF does not need.

Dont worry, he served the minimum time needed and pulled pin. It's the same tune we have heard from Smacle before, it shouldnt surprise anyone. I guess he feels that after he's put in 3 years he can talk all the smack he wants about fellow soldiers.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:50 pm
 


Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Smacle Smacle:
Reservists fail...


Idiots like yourself are also the failers the CF does not need.

Dont worry, he served the minimum time needed and pulled pin. It's the same tune we have heard from Smacle before, it shouldnt surprise anyone. I guess he feels that after he's put in 3 years he can talk all the smack he wants about fellow soldiers.



Ahhhh.... one of those...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:01 pm
 


Would he have received a different sentence if he hadn't tried to pull a BS story?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:14 pm
 


Dont know, but I doubt it. I have a feeling they new what the sentence would be before the trial started, they were just going through the motions.


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