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Title: Disciplinary charges soar since the push into Afghanistan
Category: Military
Posted By: -Mario-
Date: 2008-07-30 03:43:17
Canadian

[PENATRATOR]

Yes going to Afghanistan has made me a raping Pedophile. Slow news day at the CBC I guess. Do they forget to mention that there has been more recruiting during the report period also.

[Choban]

Also the fact that until the war started dicipline was lackluster and alot of regulations were not enforced, now that Canada's military is in the public eye everyday we see a increase in dicipline.

[2Cdo]

If the CBC could find the stats for charges back in 81 when I first joined they would shit themselves! Charged 3 times in 2 years plus a whole hockey sock of extra duties. For the first two years I was in the army I thought it was a 6 day work week, because I was almost always on duty every Saturday or Sunday!

Exactly how many of those AWOL charges were for the dopey guy 10 minutes late for a morning parade?

[Beefmeister]

Why doesn't the CBC focus on what's GREAT about our forces for a change? They're too damn American when they focus on selling negativity. Our men and women need the support of the the Nation, and while every organization has it's faults, by focusing on the positive we can achieve greater things! I'm so proud to see my tax dollars wasted... NOT!

[SprCForr]

Choban Choban:

Also the fact that until the war started dicipline was lackluster and alot of regulations were not enforced, now that Canada's military is in the public eye everyday we see a increase in dicipline.

Lackluster? Regulations not being enforced? Is this in isolated cases, a specific incidence or Forces wide? How did you come to that conclusion?

[SprCForr]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

If the CBC could find the stats for charges back in 81 when I first joined they would shit themselves! Charged 3 times in 2 years plus a whole hockey sock of extra duties. For the first two years I was in the army I thought it was a 6 day work week, because I was almost always on duty every Saturday or Sunday!

Exactly how many of those AWOL charges were for the dopey guy 10 minutes late for a morning parade?

Or missed a medical appointment and the MO got pissy?

[cheryl08]

I'm kind of wondering what is the point of this article. Not questioning the paper's motive's but what reaction are they expecting?
If these charges are true, then I guess action needs to be taken, but then again this is all happening across the globe in a war torn country, clearly it's a different ball game than civilians could understand.

[Choban]

SprCForr SprCForr:

Choban Choban:

Also the fact that until the war started dicipline was lackluster and alot of regulations were not enforced, now that Canada's military is in the public eye everyday we see a increase in dicipline.

Lackluster? Regulations not being enforced? Is this in isolated cases, a specific incidence or Forces wide? How did you come to that conclusion?

My Dad was in the Navy for 21 years, plenty of his freinds served in the Army and Airforce, I also have friends serving now,
In times of peace with low funding and low recruiting many things were overlooked that would not be now due to the fact that the military is in the International press everyday.
Pleaes note this was NOT a shot at the military.
But I know of plenty of cases of loan sharking, imporper use of equipment and various other things that were ignored by commanding officers then that would not be now.
I was simply stating that things were more relaxed (for lack of a better word)then than they are now.

[CanAm1]

Summary actions run the gammut from dirty uniforms to messy bed spaces during inspections to awol, drunkenness, fighting. Serious crap that involve courts martial have stayed the same pretty much. I had a buddy of mine charged with having two fully dressed hamburger patties under his sheets during morning inspection. He was three sheets to the wind but the Sgt Major didn't know that.

[BartSimpson]

Big whoop. Discipline issues are more of a concern now because the media is always sniffing around and a lot of the brass suck up to the politicians by being hard on the men. No worries on that, the martinets who are too tight with the rules will eventually find themselves in a bag in the cargo section of an airliner.

[Smacle]

By the end of week 4 in the new enhanced BIQ, my platoon of 43 had 17 charges pending. I think only 3 or 4 went through on the guys that the course officer didn't like.

[Scape]

cheryl08 cheryl08:

I'm kind of wondering what is the point of this article. Not questioning the paper's motive's but what reaction are they expecting?
If these charges are true, then I guess action needs to be taken, but then again this is all happening across the globe in a war torn country, clearly it's a different ball game than civilians could understand.

The misleading assumption here is made right in the title of the story that because of the deployment there are more 129's that are being reported. The fact is tracking records before 2001 is going to be hard but also the military has a new staff at the JAG that are far more diligent at tracking then before as well. So sure there are more discipline problems but stating it is solely the Afgan mission is civilian media bias that is overlooking the more numerious but far more innocuousness day to day issues such as more staff for example. Guess that doesn't make for a snazzy headline thou...