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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:59 am
What's interesting to me about this poll is that for the first time in my knowledge, no party is polling at over 30% support. This is total political quagmire.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:04 am
I'm gonna go with the party line on this one.
The only poll that counts is on polling day, UNLESS...
It shows a big lead for the Tories and then it counts.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:20 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock: I'm gonna go with the party line on this one.
The only poll that counts is on polling day, UNLESS...
It shows a big lead for the Tories and then it counts. You're right...the only ones that get all worked up about polls are pundits, political scientists and some politicians. It does give a snapshot of thinks, from a certain point of view at a specific time, but when factors in %15 of voters decide their vote on election day, polls tend to lose their importance.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:28 am
They are good for a giggle though. The questions are so leading too which makes them even funnier.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:50 am
Mustang1 Mustang1: You're right...the only ones that get all worked up about polls are pundits, political scientists and some politicians. It does give a snapshot of thinks, from a certain point of view at a specific time, but when factors in %15 of voters decide their vote on election day, polls tend to lose their importance. Well that 15% won't necessarily translate into a 15% swing between what's polled the day before the election and the ballots cast on election day, but certainly opinions can swing radically over the course of a campaign. I do wish that the politicians would base their decisions less on what polls well and more on what they actually think. I think that a large part of the Conservatives holding the Liberals hostage is based on the Liberals tanking in the polls every time the word "non-confidence" crosses Ignatieff's lips. I just thought this snapshot was interesting in that neither major party garnered even 30% support. In every other poll I've seen, at least one of the two has had that, even if the other was below 30.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:55 am
Hurley,
I personally think that Lib and Tory support will stay at the 30% ish mark. These are committed voters who are pretty partisan.
The ones who bring a majority to any party are usually the ones swayed by a candidates charisma, hair colour, suit style or a 'hot-topic' decides which way they vote during the election campaign.
As in the fickle decide on who runs the country.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:04 am
I find that polls are pretty useless on election day but it is rather telling that in a multi-party system such as ours, none of them are polling that high, and that's in light of the last election which I believe were one of the lowest voter turnouts in Canadian history. To me, it just shows that our politicians, be they Conservative, Liberal, NDP, Bloc, etcetera need to get their shit together.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:07 am
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: I find that polls are pretty useless on election day but it is rather telling that in a multi-party system such as ours, none of them are polling that high, and that's in light of the last election which I believe were one of the lowest voter turnouts in Canadian history. To me, it just shows that our politicians, be they Conservative, Liberal, NDP, Bloc, etcetera need to get their shit together. Or, lose weight, get a new haircut and some trendy clothes and a get great sound- bite line that can be comprehended by the great unwashed. That should do it to get to 45%.
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andyt
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:10 am
What, again? Oh my God, the drama of it all.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:09 am
hurley_108 hurley_108: Mustang1 Mustang1: You're right...the only ones that get all worked up about polls are pundits, political scientists and some politicians. It does give a snapshot of thinks, from a certain point of view at a specific time, but when factors in %15 of voters decide their vote on election day, polls tend to lose their importance. Well that 15% won't necessarily translate into a 15% swing between what's polled the day before the election and the ballots cast on election day, but certainly opinions can swing radically over the course of a campaign. True...but it could tip the balance in some ridings, thus still affecting seat allocation. In a system were pluralities are important, sometimes %15 can be significant.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:16 am
A lot can happen between now and the next election (possibly this fall, but more likely next spring around budget time).
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andyt
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:21 am
bootlegga bootlegga: A lot can happen between now and the next election (possibly this fall, but more likely next spring around budget time). Well let's hope not. This is probably as good as it's going to get right now.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:20 pm
Wow break out the Champaign !
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:23 pm
kenmore kenmore: Wow break out the Champaign ! Kenny's so dumb he thinks the Liberals have won something! As myself and others have said, the only poll that matters is election day. Besides, we know as soon as Ignatief opens his mouth Liberal numbers will start heading south again. I can't believe we actually were a little frightened of Ignatief when he first arrived back in Canada. Now he's almost making Dion look statesmanlike! 
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