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Title: Christy Clark resigns as leader of B.C. Liberal Party
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2017-07-29 00:17:48
Canadian

[herbie]

No worries about the Speaker breaking ties for a while.

[Thanos]

From an Alberta perspective all BC premiers are terrible. Which makes it fairly funny to hear so many right wingers here whining about the Dippers winning in BC like it's the end of the world. Or they're pretending that Clark wasn't going out of her way to screw us as much as any left-wing premier could. Apparently they've already forgotten a couple of years back when Clark used Alberta's economic problems as an opportunity to gloat over what a "great job" she was doing in comparison in BC. And, before that, how she single-handedly kicked off the opposition to the Gateway pipeline by trying to hold the project up for ransom with her nattering about royalties which, under Confederation, Alberta wasn't legally obligated in the slightest to have to pay.

So, all in all, good riddance. I'm sure Horgan and his Dipper/Green alliance will be equally terrible in their own way. Regardless of that they'll have to try really hard to get close to the level of arrogance and manipulative behaviour that Clark was capable of. Alberta's screwed either way but it's nice to see her take that long walk into irrelevance.

[herbie]

She was FOR the Enbridge line, just wasn't gonna open her mouth and admit it when all the ridings along the route were against it.
They were in one hell of a bind over that one. Every Lib MP along the route was for it behind closed doors, but every town council, Indian Band and a vast majority of the voters were against. Even if Trudeau was for it, there were hundreds of 'conditions' no investor in their right mind could meet.

[BRAH]

Thanos Thanos:

From an Alberta perspective all BC premiers are terrible. Which makes it fairly funny to hear so many right wingers here whining about the Dippers winning in BC like it's the end of the world. Or they're pretending that Clark wasn't going out of her way to screw us as much as any left-wing premier could. Apparently they've already forgotten a couple of years back when Clark used Alberta's economic problems as an opportunity to gloat over what a "great job" she was doing in comparison in BC. And, before that, how she single-handedly kicked off the opposition to the Gateway pipeline by trying to hold the project up for ransom with her nattering about royalties which, under Confederation, Alberta wasn't legally obligated in the slightest to have to pay.

So, all in all, good riddance. I'm sure Horgan and his Dipper/Green alliance will be equally terrible in their own way. Regardless of that they'll have to try really hard to get close to the level of arrogance and manipulative behaviour that Clark was capable of. Alberta's screwed either way but it's nice to see her take that long walk into irrelevance.

Clark is Liberal as Trudeau but having the NDP in BC is the same as having them in AB, we all lose. The alliance in BC will fail and another election will be called possibly giving power back to the Liberals. Ether way it's going to be interesting.

[herbie]

$1:

Clark is Liberal as Trudeau

Only cuz you're so far to the right you think Mulroney was a pinko. No wonder Trump pulls the wool over your eyes all the time.
The BC Liberals aren't liberal. They're conservatives.

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Clark is Liberal as Trudeau

Only cuz you're so far to the right you think Mulroney was a pinko. No wonder Trump pulls the wool over your eyes all the time.
The BC Liberals aren't liberal. They're conservatives.

And given their stance on pipelines and dependence on oil which, pretty much flies in the face of the Leap Manifesto, maybe the Alberta NDP aren't really NDP at all because they're actually conservatives.

This guy seems to think that the BC Liberals aren't even like you claim, conservatives.

$1:

Christy Clark's BC Liberals are left, right and centre, but they sure aren't 'conservative'

How would you ideologically classify a political party that ran on a platform of tax cuts and balanced budgets? You’d probably say you need a bit more information, given cutting taxes and balancing budgets are hardly distinctive ideas. In Canada’s 2011 election, for instance, Jack Layton’s NDP, Michael Ignatieff’s Liberals and Stephen Harper’s Conservatives all ran promising to pursue this agenda, as have a rainbow of parties at the provincial level.

If I added that this theoretical party supports a carbon tax, “safe injection sites” for heroin addicts, and legalized marijuana, but opposes a major pipeline, you might think we’re in comfortably left-wing territory.

Well, you’d be wrong, at least according to the Canadian news media, who have decided the ruling Liberal Party of British Columbia — currently fighting for their fifth term in office — are actually a party of the right. Read any mainstream coverage or analysis of B.C. politics and you’ll come across references to the “centre right,” “right-of-centre,” or “right-leaning” Liberals. No less an authority than The New York Times spoke of Premier Christy Clark’s “conservative British Columbia Liberal Party.” The Vancouver Sun has started using Tory blue for the Liberals in their polling graphics, while a premier-ranking study from Vancouver think tank Aha! grouped B.C.’s Liberal premiers in with other provinces’ Tory leaders on the grounds they were “small c-conservative.”

It’s forgivable on some level. The press needs a firm party of the right fighting a firm party of the left to create compelling political drama. If you’re a partisan of the NDP — B.C.’s provincial opposition — it’s similarly in your interests to portray Liberals and Conservatives as interchangeable oppressors of the proletariat, as NDPers have been doing since Tommy Douglas first yarned about mice voting for cats.

More of his reasons here:

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/christy ... 4cf541ab80

[herbie]

One could feel that way if you're one of the "conservatives MUST be socially conservative" crowd, which never caught on in BC.
There might be pot shops on every corner and supervised injection sites popping up all over but ten years of fiscal restraint, "tax cuts" with soaring user fees, no increase in welfare rates in a decade, total war on teachers since Day One of the Liberals, massive tax cuts for business and we're talking pretty much selling out the store to attract the LNG terminals.
But don't forget, these 'Liberals' are mainly the heirs of the private enterprise party that nationalized the ferries, the hydro, the buses, built the old PGE/BC Rail all the while keeping the socialist hordes from the gates.