[Newsbot]

Title: Canadian warship replacement plan to use off-the-shelf designs
Category: Military
Posted By: Freakinoldguy
Date: 2016-06-14 17:12:20
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

Well at least we'll be keeping the building part in house but it's a shame that much like our aircraft industry we'll likely lose our ability to design warships in Canada.

So, given the fact that their Chief Adviser on the purchase of new warships is an ex Brit Admiral we'll soon seeing some British designed warships tied up to Canadian Jetties which, should look good alongside the submersible jetty queens they sold us in the 90's.

So if we do indeed go with the off the shelf British designs the quality of those designs may be another problem because of things like this:

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These Billion Dollar British Destroyers Don’t Work In Warm Water


The United Kingdom’s Royal Navy has been forced to admit that its flotilla of billion-dollar destroyers has a critical weakness: warm water.

The Royal Navy fields six Type 45 destroyers, which were first commissioned in 2009 and are designed to provide anti-air and anti-missile support. The ships cost about one billion pounds apiece, the equivalent of more than $1.4 billion. But despite being only a few years old, the ships are breaking down, apparently because they are being ordered to serve in areas with relatively warm water. While repeated mechanical failures were initially dismissed as “teething problems,” it now appears the ship’s engines are simply unable to cope with being in warm water for prolonged periods without having its engines overtaxed.



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[ShepherdsDog]

Hmm mm. ..refurbished ships of the line?

[Freakinoldguy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Hmm mm. ..refurbished ships of the line?

Might just be some of those new destroyers that don't work so well in warm water. We've been screwed once by our good allies so what's to stop them from doing it again especially since it's the same gong show in power again. They get a good return on a broken product and we get decades of cost, futility and embarassment.

Sounds fair to me.

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Hmm mm. ..refurbished ships of the line?

I hear the HMS Victory isn't being used.

[Thanos]

They were apparently trying to pin the blame on some cooling mechanism supplied by Northrup-Grumman although strangely enough the US Navy ships using the same parts in the same theatre of operations aren't having the same problem. Maybe they're reverting to the good old British tradition of supplying their own forces with the shittiest equipment they can, the odd one-offs like Spitfire and Lee-Enfield 303 rifle aside, considering it took them until 1945 to even be able to field a tank capable of going head-to-head with the German Mark IV. After the fiasco with those subs they sold to us it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever trust the engineering brains in the Royal Navy.

[Hyack]

It's good to see they can save money by using existing plans and designs, the only thing that worries me is......buying and modifying an off-the-shelf design....

[Freakinoldguy]

Hyack Hyack:

It's good to see they can save money by using existing plans and designs, the only thing that worries me is......buying and modifying an off-the-shelf design....

It'll be okay. We're experts now in buying things like Italian Guns and modifying them to use American fire control systems or American VLS systems that use commodore 64 fire control suites, or German diesel engines modified to run on Canadian controls etc etc etc and you get my point.

We've been cross breeding weapons, engineering and electronics suites so long that we've basically created a Borg collective where, despite the improbability of compatibility all our motherships equipment works in lockstep with everything else. Alot of the time not very well but, it does work.

So, this should be a piece of cake. No matter what they buy FFS don't try and make it "Canadian" by bastardizing the weapons, engineering and other electronics systems. Use what they came with even if it costs a few Canadian jobs.

[bootlegga]

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While Foote wouldn't say what the minimum number of warships would be, she said Canada may be able to fill the need with fewer than the 15 expected.

Sounds like we're getting fewer than 3 destroyers and 12 frigates