[Newsbot]

Title: Canadian soldier says he shot friend in self-defence
Category: Military
Posted By: WDHIII
Date: 2009-07-24 11:59:45
Canadian

[putz]

Force Protection at KAF, thinking Taliban got in and was cocking a weapon at him..... grasping at straws????

[Guy_Fawkes]

Right so timmy taliban got past the ANP guards, climbed the barb wire fence, walked cross an open field, climbed a second hesco barrier with barb wire on it. Then strolled through the camp, to walk into a tent THEN cock his weapon.... get fucked.

[uwish]

well, I admit it is difficult to believe. In either case, it is tragic. Maybe they were playing a 'draw first' style game with loaded brownings. A very stupid move if that was the case.

[2Cdo]

uwish uwish:

well, I admit it is difficult to believe. In either case, it is tragic. Maybe they were playing a 'draw first' style game with loaded brownings. A very stupid move if that was the case.

When this was first reported the witnesses said exactly that, a game of "quick draw". Obviously not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[Canadian_Mind]

I've played quickdraw before, but what idiot does it with a loaded weapon?

[putz]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I've played quickdraw before, but what idiot does it with a loaded weapon?

What idiot plays quickdraw period. Last time I checked guns are not toys.

[Canadian_Mind]

putz putz:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I've played quickdraw before, but what idiot does it with a loaded weapon?

What idiot plays quickdraw period. Last time I checked guns are not toys.

Absoltually not, but before I went to Suffield I had never actually drawn a pistol from a holster. My first time drawing was a disaster, and had the weapon been loaded it would have went off when I dropped it. Only took two weeks of lots of self-practice and the occasional game before I could actually quickly draw a pistol.

If you can't employ the weapon effectively, no point carrying the extra 5-10 pounds. Yes it's a game, but it's also an effective way to help develop and maintain a skill, you know how fast you are actually drawing relative to your peers. However, I do see the difference between practicing on a training ex, where there is strict ammo control and minimal chance of their being a bullet in the chamber, and acting stupid overseas.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I think pistols are a pretty stupid idea period, way too many ND's happen with them. Design a better one where you dont have to slot a mag to fire the action or get rid of them. The main reason they have them is so the senior NCOs and Officers dont have to lug a rifle around KAF.

[putz]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

putz putz:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I've played quickdraw before, but what idiot does it with a loaded weapon?

What idiot plays quickdraw period. Last time I checked guns are not toys.

Absoltually not, but before I went to Suffield I had never actually drawn a pistol from a holster. My first time drawing was a disaster, and had the weapon been loaded it would have went off when I dropped it. Only took two weeks of lots of self-practice and the occasional game before I could actually quickly draw a pistol.

If you can't employ the weapon effectively, no point carrying the extra 5-10 pounds. Yes it's a game, but it's also an effective way to help develop and maintain a skill, you know how fast you are actually drawing relative to your peers. However, I do see the difference between practicing on a training ex, where there is strict ammo control and minimal chance of their being a bullet in the chamber, and acting stupid overseas.

Lets clairfy something here by quickdraw. I am meaning facing another person and drawing the weapon to see who has the faster draw down. There is no need to ever face someone and draw a weapon to see who is faster.

[SprCForr]

Get them into the hands of the troops more often and hammer the drills in.

[Guy_Fawkes]

putz I think you are confusing kids with their father's pistols, and trained soldiers.

It's their job to draw a weapon on a person.

[putz]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

putz I think you are confusing kids with their father's pistols, and trained soldiers.

It's their job to draw a weapon on a person.

No I am not. I am a trained a soldier. An Infanteer at that and not ONCE have I EVER played a game of quick draw with a live person. We are not living in Utah in 1864. If you want to practice drawing your weapon fast. Fine do it at the range. I have had to draw my sidearm overseas I did it fast and never needed to play a game of quick draw to do it.

[Guy_Fawkes]

When did you have to draw a pistol on someone?

[ridenrain]

All I'm going to say is the more the guy denies the mistake, the bigger his screw up becomes.